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November 5, 2008 | 6,594 views | 111 comments

Greetings, Daniel.

The “dialogue” ignited in response to the letters in this newspaper, as well as the online blog entries, has been very interesting. You and Pastor Mike Clements have given many folks in Wilson County something to talk about besides the weather and politics.

I am not a scholar, nor do I pretend to be. I am simply a truth-seeker. I am compelled by the words of the apostle Paul in II Timothy 4:1b-4: “I solemnly charge you: proclaim the message; persist in it whether convenient or not; rebuke, correct, and encourage with great patience and teaching. For the time will come when they will not tolerate sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, will accumulate teachers for themselves because they have an itch to hear something new” (Holman Christian Standard Bible).

Although I have not posted a response to the blog online, I have tried to read and keep up with your electronic dialogue. The tenor of your responses, both in print and online, makes it clear that you are investing much time and effort in your own truth-seeking. It is unfortunate that some bloggers are less than compassionate in some of their responses.

However, for you to refer to all Christians as “ignorant” is a self-defeating statement. It implies that you absolutely know every Christian and the individual’s level of intelligence and or ability to think for themselves. I would like to begin with a few quotes from a couple of “ignorant Christians” you may find familiar.

“What kind of freak is man? What a novelty he is, how absurd he is, how chaotic and what a mass of contradictions, and yet what a prodigy! He is judge of all things, yet a feeble worm. He is a repository of truth and yet sinks into such doubt and error. He is the glory and scum of the universe!” wrote Blaise Pascal, a brilliant scientist, mathematician, and philosopher of the 17th century.

And this, from C.S. Lewis in his book, Mere Christianity (1971): “Atheism turns out to be too simple. If the whole universe has no meaning, we should never have found out that it has no meaning. Now that I’m a Christian, I do have moods in which the whole thing looks improbable but when I was an atheist, I had moods in which Christianity looked terribly probable.”

Daniel, we Christians are not all ignorant. Being a Christian does not mean becoming a “zombie.” Would you consider Pascal and Lewis ignorant?

Your most recent letter was a bit scattered in its presentation, and your assertion of “picking apart” all of Pastor Mike’s responses thus far is not accurate. Instead of “picking apart,” it seems you have simply muddied the water by quoting unproven statements and theories and trying to validate them by providing nefarious, worn-out resources.

It is my understanding that this dialogue was begun as somewhat of a “challenge” to convince someone here in Wilson County into believing your arguments. According to a blog entry of Sept. 10, someone professed, “I am a stronger believer (in God) than I was in the beginning of summer.”

It would appear that the primary mission has been accomplished.

However, since this challenge now has broader potential, and obviously now has a wider audience, it would be my privilege to try and throw light on some of your assertions. For example, I’d like to address your comment, “The Sargon of Akkad is plagiarized or stolen and retold as the biblical story of Moses.”

Of course, it will be up to the editor of the Wilson County News to decide whether to continue this public discourse.

What say you?

Resident of Wilson County and a layman in First Baptist Church, Floresville.
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Dusty Duty  
Rome Italy (Vatican)  
December 4, 2008 3:42pm
Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. --------------------------------

December 4, 2008 12:21am
Danny Not all Christians celebrate christmas. I certainly don't. I know its history.

December 3, 2008 11:49pm
Dusty I fail to see the point of all of y ou people giving me verses to read when I've read through the bible in its entirety more than once. By the way, enjoy your hypocritical Holiday. I'm quite sure that your savior ... More ›

December 3, 2008 11:25pm
Mike All I can say to that is, "Whatever floats your boat", and "I enjoyed the debate." Finally, to JPC Your editorial really stirred up some emotions, some beliefs, and a few brain cells. I am certainly ... More ›

Dusty Duty  
Rome Italy (Vatican)  
December 3, 2008 9:05pm
My last note. (To Danny) From the word of God {Galations 6;2-10] This you must read. And this I will write; Gal.6 (From hence- forth let no man trouble me: for I bear in my body the marks of the Lord Jesus and finally brethern,and ... More ›

December 2, 2008 11:12pm
If that's all you are saying then we can agree. I would like to go one step further and propose another postulate: that God may present different axioms to different people - just as God gave the world many languages. Part of ... More ›

December 2, 2008 10:53am
Mike Yes, but that was not my main point. Look, if I am wrong, and hopefully someday we will find out, then I will happily let everyone say "I told you so!!" My main point was that with a few assumptions (true ... More ›

December 2, 2008 12:20am
So in the end, it boils down to: You think that you are right and that everyone else who believes differently is wrong. You have not reached this conclusion by logic, therefore, it is an irrational belief. It may be a correct ... More ›

December 1, 2008 11:19pm
Certainly I have reasons to believe it is the truth, just as mathematicians have reasons for choosing the axioms they choose to develop a theory. I said that from my studies I believe it is true. How have I been disingenuous? ... More ›

December 1, 2008 10:57pm
Bubba, "You stated: I never said that you could prove the KJV true. Where did you get this? I simply said from my studies, that I believe it to be true. That's my axiom. That's my starting point. You can't prove axioms. ... More ›

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