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Nevermind there Tex. It refers to a different comment, not yours.

 

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"2010", Say what?

 

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Ya know, if a certain person would just read these articles a bit more closely, like, for comprehension..... like this sentence right here:
"The sign is still in front ... Read More 

Ya know, if a certain person would just read these articles a bit more closely, like, for comprehension..... like this sentence right here:
"The sign is still in front of the building today, but nothing else has happened."
....maybe the certain person could spare us a lot of extra, unnecessary reading.

 

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Not sure why anyone would have to know any more than the knowledge that the Federal Government would be heavily involved in the management, regulations, funding, rationing, ... Read More 

Not sure why anyone would have to know any more than the knowledge that the Federal Government would be heavily involved in the management, regulations, funding, rationing, administration of the Health Care Reform Plan to know that it is a really bad piece of legislation.

I wouldn't trust the Governmnet to help me pick out my brand of chewing gum much less handle something so important to me as health care....can you imagine the fraud, mismanagement, inequities, special interest groups that will be involved if the Governmnet gets it's hands on health care?

Anyone that reads and believes any of the edicts of the UN also believe in little green Martians. The UN is strongly anti-USA and any report they disperse involving USA involvment is going to be heavily biased and slanted against America. For instance, one of their reports mentions that the USA is something like the 30th (rough estimate) best country to live in yet 100s of thousands of people enter illegally every year and the legal immigration quotas are always filled out and have long waiting lines for next year and the year after and the year after that...what other country can boast that. A rececent poll which wasn't UN sponsored indicated that about 50% of the ones polled would like to relocate to another country and of that 50% about 60% of those would like to relocate to America...If America is only the 30th best place to live (UN study) then why are so many wanting to come here?

As for any UN study showing all these countries with better and cheaper health care, without seeing their methodogy and criteria just color me unconvinced and unblieving. If many thousands come here from foreign countries each year for medical procedures then I guess our health care couldn't be too bad...I don't see foreign dignataries flocking to Cuba for medical procedures although that swine Michael Moore would have people believe their health care system is superior.

 

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Well thank you Dr. Carroll. For a while there, I was under the impression that our health care system was actually far superior to the rest of the World. But now, thanks ... Read More 

Well thank you Dr. Carroll. For a while there, I was under the impression that our health care system was actually far superior to the rest of the World. But now, thanks to Dr. Carroll, who has apparently, actually experienced first hand all these other systems around the world, lived there, worked there, been a patient there, studied their economies and overall situations, how their people live, what they eat, what wars they are involved in...UH OH. Would that little thing like a war make a difference in longevity figures? Life expectancy and such? I wonder just what figures he's been looking at....what World organization supplied data shows all these other systems have better outcomes and cost less? Hmmm? Oh, I don’t doubt they cost less. That’s the easy part. Just don’t pay for it! Bwahaha. But, the outcomes part is a little hazy. Yeah, he’s a bit hazy on the data there on that one.

Well, forget all that. That's apples to oranges. Doesn't matter. What really matters to all of us and especially to Dr. Carroll, is that we manage somehow to ram a Single Payer system down the collective throats of the American public, like it or not. That's what really matters and since Dr. Carroll is a, OH MY!, a reeeal doctor of something, he MUST be correct in all that he says and publishes. Of course. Oh yeah, I’m convinced. Sign me up!

 

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Financial Relationship with Industry Provision:

This provision would require manufacturers or distributors to electronically report any payments or other transfers of ... Read More 

Financial Relationship with Industry Provision:

This provision would require manufacturers or distributors to electronically report any payments or other transfers of value above $5 made to a “covered recipient” (physician, physician group practice, other prescribers, pharmacy or pharmacist, health insurance issuer, group health plan, pharmacy benefit manager, hospital, medical school, sponsor of a continuing medical education program, patient advocacy or disease specific group, organization of health care professionals, biomedical researcher, group purchasing organization.)

It would also require hospitals, manufacturers and group-purchasing organizations to report the nature of ownership arrangements by physicians. The information would be published annually on a public website.

The language includes penalties for non-reporting, ranging from $1,000 to $10,000 (but not exceeding $150,000). Payment less than $5 are not required to be reported.

A very interesting twist to say the least that Mr. Segel attempts in regards to what is actually stated in the reform...

BTW - The hospital is still scheduled to open its doors... see link below

http://www.istockanalyst.com/article/viewiStockN
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An article by Aaron E. Carroll.Associate Professor of Pediatrics, Indiana University School of Medicine

One of the most frustrating aspects of the health care reform debate ... Read More 

An article by Aaron E. Carroll.Associate Professor of Pediatrics, Indiana University School of Medicine

One of the most frustrating aspects of the health care reform debate is how often everyone pretends that we have no good options. We let people tell us that really, our only choice is what we have or “European-style socialism”. A free market capitalist system, or a “government run system”. That’s just not true.

You see, this argument assumes that every other system around the world is the same. And so, each time someone “discovers” another country’s system, as the New York Times did last week with Switzerland, we all get to pretend to be shocked that there might be another option. Or, we are treated to Senator Conrad’s apparent recent discovery (and perhaps still incomplete understanding) of the French health care system from TR Reid’s The Healing of America, as if the intricacies of that system were previously a secret. Of course, these revelations always seem to come apparently far too late to actually do anything about reform here in the United States.

Let me set the record straight for the rest of you. Contrary to what you’ve heard, Europe isn’t one big country. It’s not one big health care system either. It’s home to a wealth of different insurance schemes and varying government involvement. They are all, however, cheaper than ours and cover all their citizens. Many also have better outcomes.

At one extreme, you’ve got the United Kingdom. Its National Health System is entirely government run, with the hospitals and the doctors employed by the government. And, boy, is it cheap. Their outcomes are pretty good, they cover everyone, and still manage to spend over $4000 less per person than we do. It might surprise you to learn, however, that private options also exists there and are growing every day.

France, on the other hand, has a mostly private physician run system with comprehensive, basic government-run health insurance for all their citizens. Private supplemental insurance also can be bought, and most people get it from their employers. Their health system is often ranked best in the world. And it’s way cheaper than ours and everyone in France gets it.

Switzerland, as you may have heard, has an entirely private-run insurance system. They require significant cost-sharing designed to avoid shielding patients from the costs of health care. Although premiums on average are similar to what we pay here, their out-of-pocket costs are much higher. All insurance carriers must provide basic insurance plans on a not-for-profit basis. They can make a profit on more expensive plans. There is enormous government regulation to limit the cost of drugs, devices, and lab tests, and insurers watch physicians very closely to make sure they don’t spend too much. Their system is still better than ours, and still cheaper overall.

The Dutch (and why aren’t they talked about more often?) have a very regulated, entirely private, often for-profit insurance system. They also have private hospitals and private doctors. They have mandatory insurance that is the same price regardless of your health and regardless of your age. The system is regulated in such a way as to actually make it no more expensive to ensure high-risk patients. They have good outcomes (although they could be better), universal coverage, and pay less than we do.

If you’re willing to break outside of Europe, Singapore might blow your mind. They have a complex scheme of mandatory medical savings accounts with compulsory savings based on income. Sounds like a conservative’s dream! They also have catastrophic insurance, provided by the government on a single-payer basis, funded through taxes. Their health care system cost only 3.8% of GDP in 2005. That’s insane. Back when the WHO compared health care systems, Singapore ranked 6th out of 191 countries. The US was 37th.

And, yes, there is Canada. Single-payer health insurance without a parallel private system. There is private insurance to cover what the public system does not. Much cheaper than ours. Universal coverage. And outcomes so similar that we’re still arguing about which of our two systems is better after decades of comparisons.

Know what all these systems have in common, though? Serious, huge government regulation. Know what else they all have in common? They are all cheaper than our system. They all have comparable or better outcomes than our system. And they all manage to achieve universal coverage. All of them.

Other than that, though, they are all over the map, both literally and figuratively. Can we pull our heads out of the sand long enough to admit that maybe – just maybe – we might be able to learn something from one of them?

If I had my first choice, I favor a single payer system. Not because of any governing ideology, but because I believe it achieves universal coverage along with the most efficient means of cost containment/quality enhancement through incentivizing innovation and improvement at the provider and system level. I think it’s better done there than at the consumer level, and I think that’s been shown empirically as well as theoretically. But I’m not ideological purist. Singapore’s system is, frankly, unbelievable. It’s enough to make me believe that consumer competition, done in a progressive way with a single-payer backup, may have something to offer as well.

And, look, I would take almost any of these other systems over our own. I’d happily choose the highly regulated non-profit system, the mandatory MSA/single-payer catastrophic system, a government run single-payer system with optional private supplemental coverage, or even the highly regulated profit-minimizing system. They are all better than what we’ve got.

But, no. We’ll continue to shout at each other that there’s only the American system and “them”. That’s true, of course, if you mean to say that there’s only the worst system and “better ones”. Otherwise, you’re just ignoring the facts.

 

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Just because I'm in a writing mood this morning...

“A government run plan will ultimately force private insurers out of business,” Mr. Grassley said, adding that supporters ... Read More 

Just because I'm in a writing mood this morning...

“A government run plan will ultimately force private insurers out of business,” Mr. Grassley said, adding that supporters of the public option (the portion of the current healthcare & healthcare insurance reform proposals that are going to send us into socialistic oblivion) were trying to open a back door toward a fully government-run, or single-payer, health system like those in Canada or England.

Oh my, the sheer horror of it all...

“The Public option is a step toward a completely government run plan that they are hoping for,” Mr. Grassley said.

First of all, if the public option runs private insurers out of business, it will be because it is more appealing to Americans as an option. Key word here being "option"... How is that bad?

I’m not asking rhetorically. Seriously, if we believe in the marketplace & capitalism, and we believe that the group that can offer the best product for the lowest price should win – if private insurance can’t do it, why should we keep them around?

Moreover, how then has Medicare not put private insurance out of business? How come we aren’t afraid of that single-payer system sliding us down the slippery slope into socialism?

The complete hypocracy of it all...

 

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How far has the Right (and the Left) moved to the right? Bear with me as I take you into the past...

A now former president sends a “Special Message” to Congress. He’s ... Read More 

How far has the Right (and the Left) moved to the right? Bear with me as I take you into the past...

A now former president sends a “Special Message” to Congress. He’s proposing comprehensive health care reform. Here are his words:

Without adequate health care, no one can make full use of his or her talents and opportunities. It is thus just as important that economic, racial and social barriers not stand in the way of good health care as it is to eliminate those barriers to a good education and a good job.

Today the need is even more pressing because of the higher costs of medical care. Efforts to control medical costs under the New Economic Policy have been Inept with encouraging success, sharply reducing the rate of inflation for health care. Nevertheless, the overall cost of health care has still risen by more than 20 percent in the last two and one-half years, so that more and more Americans face staggering bills when they receive medical help today.

This former President makes a good point. What does he want to do?

Upon adoption of appropriate Federal and State legislation, the Comprehensive Health Insurance Plan would offer to every American the same broad and balanced health protection through one of three major programs:

[1]–Employee Health Insurance, covering most Americans and offered at their place of employment, with the cost to be shared by the employer and employee on a basis which would prevent excessive burdens on either;

How would that work?

Every employer would be required to offer all full-time employees the Comprehensive Health Insurance Plan. Additional benefits could then be added by mutual agreement. The insurance plan would be jointly financed, with employers paying 65 percent of the premium for the first three years of the plan, and 75 percent thereafter. Employees would pay the balance of the premiums. Temporary Federal subsidies would be used to ease the initial burden on employers who face significant cost increases.

Now that’s a powerful employer mandate. I see no small business exclusion. That’s way more than anyone is pushing right now. How Radical!

[2]–An improved Medicare Plan, covering those 65 and over and offered through a Medicare system that is modified to include additional, needed benefits.

So this former president wanted to strengthen Medicare. Fair enough. I’m listening. What’s the last part?

[3]–Assisted Health Insurance, covering low-income persons, and persons who would be ineligible for the other two programs, with Federal and State government paying those costs beyond the means of the individual who is insured;

But how would this fancy Assisted Insurance work?

The program of Assisted Health Insurance is designed to cover everyone not offered coverage under Employee Health Insurance or Medicare, including the unemployed, the disabled, the self-employed, and those with low incomes. In addition, persons with higher incomes could also obtain Assisted Health Insurance if they cannot otherwise get coverage at reasonable rates. Included in this latter group might be persons whose health status or type of work puts them in high-risk insurance categories.

Assisted Health Insurance would thus fill many of the gaps in our present health insurance system and would ensure that for the first time in our Nation’s history, all Americans would have financial access to health protection regardless of income or circumstances.

A principal feature of Assisted Health Insurance is that it relates premiums and out-of-pocket expenses to the income of the person or family enrolled. Working families with incomes of up to [a certain amount], for instance, would pay no premiums at all. Deductibles, co-insurance, and maximum liability would all be pegged to income levels.

Anything else?

There would be no exclusions of coverage based on the nature of the illness. For example, a person with heart disease would qualify for benefits as would a person with kidney disease.

And how would you make sure that happens?

The States would approve specific plans, oversee rates, ensure adequate disclosure, require an annual audit and take other appropriate measures. For health care providers, the States would assure fair reimbursement for physician services, drugs and institutional services, including a prospective reimbursement system for hospitals.

That’s… a massive amount of government regulation. This former President loves his government oversight and intervention. Moreover, he doesn’t seem to want to leave anything to the free market system.

OK, so we have lots of people getting insurance from their employer. People over 65 get strengthened Medicare. The rest would get subsidies to buy private insurance. No one could be denied insurance because of prior conditions. States would closely regulate insurance and reimbursement.

This sounds awfully familiar; the conservatives must have hated him.

Who was this communist?

Richard Nixon.

Can we stop pretending this healthcare & healthcare insurance reform is government run amok? Can we stop pretending this is unprecedented? Can we stop pretending that every cry of socialism, of communism, of fascism is reasonable? Please, give me a break?

Both the Senate and House proposals are plans that are slightly to the right of President Nixon. It’s a remarkably moderate incremental sort of reform that a reasonable conservative should recognize as his or her own...

Again, they're not affraid that it won't work, they're scared to death that it will!!!

 

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Socialized medicine refers to health system in which the government owns and operates both the financing of health care and its delivery.

 

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So, "Rock" you don't think the Government won't own doctors (wink, wink). The Government with their new Health care bill will have the power to regulate doctor's ... Read More 

So, "Rock" you don't think the Government won't own doctors (wink, wink). The Government with their new Health care bill will have the power to regulate doctor's fees, which procedures that will be allowed, what medications that will be authorized. And, you don't think that if a doctor can not generate enough revenue from his/her practice to earn enough revenue to stay open that the government does not 'own' doctors. Not sure what a super naive person looks like but I bet it would reflect 'your' face in a mirror.

 

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Apparently, the proponent of this socialized health care bill has a problem with the verb, “to own” as it relates to the definition of socialism. And this proponent expounds ... Read More 

Apparently, the proponent of this socialized health care bill has a problem with the verb, “to own” as it relates to the definition of socialism. And this proponent expounds at great length and redundancy at every opportunity as to how absurd a supposition it is to even suggest that the object of his undying devotion is even remotely socialistic in any manner or respect, because the government will not “own” the doctors.

Therefore, allow me to further enlighten this discussion with the simple definition of the verb, “to own”, to wit:
From Merriam Webster-
1 a : to have or hold as property : possess b : to have power or mastery over <wanted to own his own life>.

If I may call attention to subsection (b), “to have power or mastery over“. From this definition, it is obvious to even the most obtuse observer, that one cannot “own” if one does not have “power or mastery over“.

Therefore, it follows that if one does not have power or mastery over one’s medical practice, or insurance company, one does not by definition truly “own” it. Furthermore, if one does not control the means by which one produces the services connected with said medical practice or insurance business as a result of governmental interference and over regulation, it can be argued that one does not either “own” or “control” said medical practice or insurance business. By definition, this would be socialism.
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Happy Thanksgiving Everyone! What else are we thankful for...

We're thankful President Obama is thinking (GOP says that's dithering - already covered that one) long ... Read More 

Happy Thanksgiving Everyone! What else are we thankful for...

We're thankful President Obama is thinking (GOP says that's dithering - already covered that one) long and hard about committing more troops and money to Afghanistan - he's even going to tell us what his plan is... Now there's a change we can be thankful for!!!

We're thankful President Bush feels liberated now.

We're (not) thankful Dick Cheney has elected to move from his undisclosed location to the media spotlight.

We're thankful Al Franken has gone from playing self-help guru Stuart Smalley on Saturday Night Live to helping rape victims receive justice from their employers.

We're thankful for the healing power of beer.

We're thankful there are some on the right who think Glenn Beck is "incoherent," "mindless," "erratic," "bizarre," and "harmful to the conservative movement."

We're thankful for long hikes on the Appalachian Trail.

We're thankful Michael Steele understands that he can't "do policy" and that no one has any reason to trust his "words or actions."

We're (not) thankful for "birthers," "deathers," "tenthers," or "tea baggers."

We're (not) thankful conservatives believe they love America so much that they can root for our President to fail and for our nation to lose out on hosting the Olympics.

We're thankful NFL players refused to "bend over and grab the ankles" for Rush Limbaugh.

We're thankful six companies have resigned from the Chamber of Commerce due to its denial of climate change science.

We're thankful Falcon "Balloon boy" Heene wasn't actually in the balloon.

We're thankful Lt. Dan Choi and Lt. Col Victor Fehrenbach bravely spoke out against Don't Ask, Don't Tell.

We're thankful Shep Smith doesn't always drink the Fox News kool-aid.

We're thankful more than 80 companies refused to lend their sponsorship to Glenn Beck's hateful rants.

We're thankful there are progressive organizations in D.C. lobbying for a two-state solution in the Middle East.

We're (not) thankful for the filibuster.

We're thankful that more than 20,000 of you stood up to Bill O'Reilly's harassment machine and called for impeachment hearings against torture advocate Jay Bybee.

We're thankful that Iran's authoritarian rulers live in fear of their own population.

We're thankful we'll no longer have to listen to nativist rhetoric on CNN and global warming skepticism on ABC News.

We're (not) thankful for bailed out CEOs who think they're doing "God's work" by doling out billions in bonuses.

We're thankful for the legacy of the Liberal Lion.

We're thankful Bill O'Reilly won't be following us home for Thanksgiving.

We're thankful a "wise Latina" sits on the Supreme Court.

We're thankful our boss helped rescue imprisoned American journalists in North Korea.

 

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More info along those GOP "dithering" lines...

Senator mccain continues to remain consistent as far as GOP dithering is concerned... he, Like bush, wasn't ... Read More 

More info along those GOP "dithering" lines...

Senator mccain continues to remain consistent as far as GOP dithering is concerned... he, Like bush, wasn't interested in any sort of an exit strategy for the war in Iraq.

When running for President, the Arizona senator and fervent Iraq war supporter said he would “be fine with” the U.S. military staying in Iraq for “a hundred years” and later declared that US troops could be in Iraq for "a thousand years" or "a million years", "as far as he was concerned.”

No "dithering" going on there now is there...

Dithering Indeed, McCain’s knee-jerk reactions to the crises in Iran last June and in Georgia last October, and now with his “no exit strategy necessary” policy, reminds the U.S. MAJORITY of the bullet we dodged last November by not electing him president.

President Obama is going to announce an exit strategy in the coming days - Early December as a matter of fact!!!

 

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What did the bush administration do about Afganistan? The inept adminisration that couldn't bring a single man to justice (osama bush laden)... Something else he left behind ... Read More 

What did the bush administration do about Afganistan? The inept adminisration that couldn't bring a single man to justice (osama bush laden)... Something else he left behind for President Obama to fix... Not 1 war, but 2!!!

I believe their "dithering" lasted for about 7 years and you have the audaciousness to castigate...

Unlike the bush administration the Obama Administration is interested in winning this war and getting it right the first time and bringing our troops home.

Unlike bush, President Obama is not interested in lining the pockets of his halliburton, Xe Services LLC, (formerly known as blackwater, wonder why they changed their name?), and the countless other contractor "friends" of the administration at the expense of the precious lives of our warriors just to make a buck... Dithering indeed!!!

Wait a minute - wasn't there some sort of connection between Halliburton and our FORMER vice president dick cheney??? Hmmmmm...!!! The complete hypocracy of it all!!!

More rhetoric, more right winged talking points!!!

 

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While nursing, one piglet turned to his sibling and said, "this is good but which one is the chocolate?"

 

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Food For Thought:

The Senate and House are controlled by Democrats and the White House also, but I'm having a hard time thinking of anything constructive they have ... Read More 

Food For Thought:

The Senate and House are controlled by Democrats and the White House also, but I'm having a hard time thinking of anything constructive they have done after 10 months. This group has increased the budget deficit to the highest point in American History. The huge stimulus bill was suppose to keep the unemployment rate below 8% and currently it is 10.2%. The Government has doled out huge chunks of money to big business. The Governmnet has illegally favored labor union interest over those of stock/bond holders. The government has a huge Cap and Tax bill working that they will not be able to pass. The White House has not been able to make it's mind up whether or not to try and win the war in Afghanistan after delaying recommendations by the Commanding General. The Government is trying to pass a massive, health care and budget killer which has a long way yet to go before it might pass.

On the good side, Obama has had time to vacation, play golf, make a bunch of campaign trips to various states, take several extended foreign trips, hold numerous parties in the White House for immoral Hollywood people and radical zealots.

Conclusion: If you plan to put on a party/play golf or plan a tour Obama is your man. If you need to run a country perhaps someone other than the Current Administration and the Current Congress should be located.

 

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If you have the ability to make the rules, you have "control". That's pretty easy to understand.

To me almost anything is socialism in nature if it is wholly ... Read More 

If you have the ability to make the rules, you have "control". That's pretty easy to understand.

To me almost anything is socialism in nature if it is wholly or partly controlled and paid for by anyone other than the principles involved. For instance, the food stamp program is socialistic in nature. The principles involved (the food stamp recipient and the Government) are using someone else's money (taxpayer) to pay for the food stamps and the Government makes all the rules and controls the distribution of the the food stamps...that is what Obama wants to do with a all or almost all of the wealth in America...take from large groups that have the money and redistributed through Government welfare programs. Don't know why anyone would want a socialist government unless they are lazy and want to let someone else do the work, earn the money and then ship it off to them...Taking from one group to give to another group is stealing.

The big trouble with Socialism/Communism/Marxism is that it does not work...never has and never will. It doesn't work cause it's impossible to make people put forth maximum effort to earn a buck or build a business if it is known beforehand that the Government is going to take almost all of the earnings and just hand it off to the many who would be satisfied not working for their keep. And, if Obama is successful installing his Socialistic/Communistic/Marxist form of government, big corporations and anyone that can, will pack their bags and leave for parts that are more favorable to profits. When that happens the once huge pool of resources are drastically reduced and then the ones that use to be only middle class are suddenly the group that will bear the largest burden of supplying funds for the lower economic groups...on and on and on until there is no one left to supply the funds for the ever voracious Socialistic funds receivers.

The Government does not have to actually own all the revenue stream producers, they only have to have the ability to regulate and control their actions. And, with that ability, they can promote or destroy any company or segment of the economy they wish. Once the Government has the Public Option in place, they can control any or all segments of the health insurance, hospitals, physicians, pharmaceutical companies, health product companies...that's about 16% of the TOTAL Gross National Product. If the Health Insurance Reform is passed with the Public Option in place, America is no more...the Socialist/Communist/Marxist will have won and America will not be very far from a totalitarian form of government.

So, spit out some silly Miriam Dictionary definition of Socialism if you want. I just explained what socialism is all about...don't have to run to a dictionary and turn the pages to S T I N K to understand why I don't want to track cow poop into the living room. And, by the same principle I don't have to look in the dictionary to understand that I don't want Obama or his form of Socialistic/Communistic/Marxist government.

Obama's form of government will kill this country and that makes Obama much more deadly than a terrorist. Obama will gnaw away at the Republic from 'inside' undercover and undetected by many until all the vital organs are destroyed. And, it is not very difficult to totally despise someone that wants to destroy my country from the inside under the cover of secrecy and deceit.

 

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It is very apparent and very clear that you DO NOT have a clue as to what Socialism is - unless of course you can convince me that the current healthcare and healthcare insurance ... Read More 

It is very apparent and very clear that you DO NOT have a clue as to what Socialism is - unless of course you can convince me that the current healthcare and healthcare insurance reform includes the following...

The govt owns and controls all the doctors, the govt owns and controls all the healthcare infrastructure, the govt owns & controls all the healthcare insurance companies and the govt owns and controls all the hospitals.

After all, according to websters the Definition of Socialism is - any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or GOVERNMENTAL OWNERSHIP and ADMINISTRATION of the means of production and distribution of goods and in this case relating to healthcare...

PLEASE SHOW ME IN ANY OF THE PROPOSED HEALTHCARE & HEALTHCARE INSURANCE REFORM (house or senate) PROPOSALS WHERE THIS TAKES PLACE... PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, anyone...

 

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Of Course, how silly of us all not to read that in between the lines of your rhetoric...

 

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Yeah, I guess that's it then. We're all just too ignorant to understand that even though socialized health care, looks, walks and quacks like a duck, it’s really not a ... Read More 

Yeah, I guess that's it then. We're all just too ignorant to understand that even though socialized health care, looks, walks and quacks like a duck, it’s really not a duck. OK, I get it now. Thanks for the enlightenment.
And, eh, I guess that reasoning also applies to the graduated tax system? The fact that it takes more from those who have the ability to pay it, and gives it to those who just need it, ("from each according to his ability, to each according to his need"),... oh no, that’s irrelevant. That’s really not a Marxist principle. No, not at all. (Pay no attention to the little man behind the curtain.)

 

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Obama aint 'one of us' indicates that Obama is not one of the 80% of Americans who profess to be conservative or moderate...he is one of the 20% who are liberal. And, ... Read More 

Obama aint 'one of us' indicates that Obama is not one of the 80% of Americans who profess to be conservative or moderate...he is one of the 20% who are liberal. And, I suspect that of the 20% who are liberal he would be in the subgroup that comprise about 5% of liberals who are really far, far left wing liberal (Socialist/Communist/Marxist). And, being Socialist/Communist/Marxist is not an American ideology. Hence, he is an Unamerican thinking far, far left liberal Socialist/Communist/Marxist.

That is what 'aint one of us' means.

 

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Notice how he changes the subject and then provides a very interesting and introspective story about his ancestory... Then he tries to convince us that OUR President is not ... Read More 

Notice how he changes the subject and then provides a very interesting and introspective story about his ancestory... Then he tries to convince us that OUR President is not one of "US"???

I wonder what he means by "US"???

He also provides a very interesing "twist" (I'm being nice) on what was actaully said by OUR President in ragards to reparations???

He then goes on to claim that OUR President is somehow interested in taking his land and giving it to someone in Detroit, New York, or New Jersey... What in the world is that all about?

WOW - Care to elaborate 4GT???

 

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I may not know much, but I know this: Obama aint one of us!

My Great Grandfather migrated to American from Ireland in the 1860's to find a better life and feed his large ... Read More 

I may not know much, but I know this: Obama aint one of us!

My Great Grandfather migrated to American from Ireland in the 1860's to find a better life and feed his large family. He settled in Wilson County where he became a successful farmer.

Without a place of opportunity like America, it is likely he and his family would not have survived the famine and diseases roaming Ireland.

What my Great Grandfather found in America was a land where hard work, God, and family was the mainstay and sustenance of his existence and the springboard to do well.

My Great Grandfather was not looking for a Government that supplied health care, subsidies, directions, or charity. He was just looking for a place that supplied the opportunity and rewarded those that ceased the opportunity.

My Great Grandfather did not own slaves...his work force included himself, my Great Grandmother and 12 children.
Part of Obama's own writings insinuate that America owes minorities reparations for deeds done. For myself, none of my ancestors did nothing that would require apologies or reparations to any minority. So, I feel that everyone should make their own way unless they are physically or mentally incapable of doing so. But, Obama would like to take the farm land my Great Grandfather tilled with mules and the help of 12 children and give part of that to someone in Detroit, New York, or New Jersey who sits on the porch in the afternoon drinking beer without the inspiration or gumption to earn their own way.

Well, he won't get it!

Obama aint one of us!

 

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Rhetoricism seems to fit the last entry made nicely!
Nothing more than rhetoric and right winged talking points... Nothing more, Nothing less!

 

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Anything or anyone that does not encourage fiscal responsibility, a strong military, individual freedoms, just rewards for hard work, less government control, private ownership, ... Read More 

Anything or anyone that does not encourage fiscal responsibility, a strong military, individual freedoms, just rewards for hard work, less government control, private ownership, individualism, transparency, little or no special interest favoritism is some kind of 'ism'...don't care what it's called.

Simply put, the current administration made America a whole lot of promises that it knew were lies when made, but they were made knowing many would believe the lies and react favorably.

Another Simply put, A well known 'former Communist' David Horowitz in his own words on TV said very straight forward and directly, "Obama is a Communist".

Anyone that has the ability to do First Grade homework can use Obama's own words, writings, and actions to get to the conclusion that Obama 'aint one of us'! In his own words, Obama said in college that he purposely sought out radicals, Communists, Marxist students and professors for his inspiration.

How much more evidence does anyone need than Obama's own statements to prove what he is. But, if you don't believe his own words just look at his actions.
Almost all of his advisors in the White House are radicals, Communists, Maoist, Marxist. Obama is not much concerned with the economy and creating jobs. Instead he has invested almost all his energies and time since 'day one' in trying to install a Government Run Health System. That is one of the large goals of a Socialist/Marxist/Communist is to cease as much control as possible of private enterprise.

I could go on and on and on about Obama's activities that would prove Obama is an "ism" of some kind. The exact word for his 'ism' is not important. But, the important results of his actions are 'Unamerican'. Regardless of how good intentioned Obama is, the truth is that Americas are waking up to the fact that Obama looked them in the eye and 'L I E D ' to them and misrepresented who he was and what he wanted to do.

I believe America is starting to push back against Obama's plans to make this great country into something most Americans don't want.

I for one don't want Obama, and by 2012 Obama is going to find out his truly ugly, selfish, arrogant, narcissistic view of HIS AMERICA does not exist and hopefully never will.

It really is "arrogance" for a very small group of very far left wing radicals to think they know what is best for Americans and try to impose those views on the vast majority that don't agree...

I am ready for someone in Washington to look me in the eye, tell me the truth and be open about their intentions. I am ready for a real American that understands the inner soul of America and who is ready to support and promote values and ideas of the overwhelming majority of Americans.

The only 'ism' I want in Washington DC is true American"ism".

 

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How predictable, nothing more than a copy and paste effort directly from websters...??? Absolutely zero effort (none) what-so-ever to try and apply the ideology to what ... Read More 

How predictable, nothing more than a copy and paste effort directly from websters...??? Absolutely zero effort (none) what-so-ever to try and apply the ideology to what they're claiming ("socialism", "communism") is going on in regards to HealthCare & HealthCare Insurance reform or the Auto Industry... They did not disapoint!!!

I doubt that either actually know & understand what the current healthcare & healthcare insurance reform proposal (too many pages to read I suspect) in the Senate states or which portions could even be considered "socialistic" (the "watered down" public option perhaps - a stretch for sure) in nature (I know, I just told them) - the rest just doesn't even begin to apply to the socialistic idealogy, or the communist idealogy, by any means or stretch of the imagination.

I doubt that it's even understood what the next steps are in the process in order to move the legislation which is being proposed forward because they stick to nothing other than right winged talking points.

On to the auto industry being government owned (approx. 61%) which is scheduled to end sometime during 2010 (early expert estimation) when there will be a new public offering of that same stock (61%) and the profits from that offering going straight to the government... They've already started paying back the loan!

Now please inform all of us exactly what it is that the government owns or will continue to own in this new "socialistic" republic???

Will the govt own (pay) the doctors - no
Will the govt own healthcare Infrastructure - no
Will the govt own the insurance companies - no
Will the govt own the hospitals - no
Will the govt always own 61% of GM - no
Will the govt control the production of autos - no
Will the govt control the distribution of autos - no

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Of course, what is not contained in the simple definitions of Socialism and Communism is the very real and undeniable fact that both systems destroy the incentive to achieve, ... Read More 

Of course, what is not contained in the simple definitions of Socialism and Communism is the very real and undeniable fact that both systems destroy the incentive to achieve, to strive to get ahead, to get rich, which is at the heart of human ingenuity, inventiveness and yes, progress.

The simple truth is that Communism, and it's little brother Socialism are failed economic systems and only survive through totalitarian governmental control.

Another fact that is so clearly obvious from the history of the 20th Century is that Communism/Socialism cannot co-exist with Capitalist competition.

 

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Mediation Time,

Perhaps you should do some research. The govt has now essentially taken over the auto industry (except for Ford) and intends to take over the health care ... Read More 

Mediation Time,

Perhaps you should do some research. The govt has now essentially taken over the auto industry (except for Ford) and intends to take over the health care industry.

A certain German leaders first act as dictator was to make auto industry "state controlled" and to nationalize healthcare.

Polls are what they are. Usually highly biased and unreliable. Those facts aside, many are dismayed by what Obama has brought to the table vs what he promised out on the campaign trail. I am one of them. I'd never support a man with such a careless disregard for the unborn but I nonetheless hoped Obama would be a successful leader. So far I am not liking what I'm seeing and I think that I am far from alone.

If you think socialism is right for America, then perhaps you simply don't share the true American Spirit that built this country and paved the way for so many from across the world to achieve the "American Dream"

 

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Merriam-Webster.com, Definition of Socialism:

1 : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of ... Read More 

Merriam-Webster.com, Definition of Socialism:

1 : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2 a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
3 : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Socialism
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Socialism in Marxist Theory

The Marxist conception of socialism is that of a specific historical phase that will displace capitalism and be a precursor to communism. The major characteristics of socialism (particularly as conceived by Marx and Engels after the Paris Commune of 1871), are that the proletariat will control the means of production through a workers' state erected by the workers in their interests. Economic activity is still organised through the use of incentive systems and social classes would still exist but to a lesser and diminishing extent than under capitalism.[20]
For orthodox Marxists, socialism is the lower stage of communism based on the principle of "from each according to his ability, to each according to his contribution" while upper stage communism is based on the principle of "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need"; the upper stage becoming possible only after the socialist stage further develops economic efficiency and the automation of production has led to a superabundance of goods and services

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism
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Merriam-Webster.com, Definition of Communism:
1 a : a theory advocating elimination of private property b : a system in which goods are owned in common and are available to all as needed
2 capitalized a : a doctrine based on revolutionary Marxian socialism and Marxism-Leninism that was the official ideology of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics b : a totalitarian system of government in which a single authoritarian party controls state-owned means of production c : a final stage of society in Marxist theory in which the state has withered away and economic goods are distributed equitably d : communist systems collectively

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Communism

 

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As a suggestion, those bloggers, the ones that continually scream socialism, communism, and those other "isms" might want to perform a considerable amount of ... Read More 

As a suggestion, those bloggers, the ones that continually scream socialism, communism, and those other "isms" might want to perform a considerable amount of research on what those ideologies really mean and what they stand for... All of you making those claims really show your ignorance!

Like Dr. Martin Luther King once said "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity."

 

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Obama's jig is up! Conservatives tried to tell America for 2 years that Obama was a far left radical Socialist, but rabid liberals and uncertain moderates ignored the warnings. ... Read More 

Obama's jig is up! Conservatives tried to tell America for 2 years that Obama was a far left radical Socialist, but rabid liberals and uncertain moderates ignored the warnings. But, now his mask has been stripped off and his pants pulled down to reveal a much lesser man and person than has been portrayed by the radical left and the Lamestreet Media.

When you get to the bare skinny, Obama is a very, weak, indecisive, ideologue hell bent on shoving ALL his agenda down the throat of America as fast and as hard as possible...and, the general populace has started to see the 'real' person behind the manufactured mask and they don't like it. That is the reason his support numbers are dropping. And, his numbers will continue to drop till his masculinity is snipped by the resurgence of Conservatives in Congress derailing his 'bad news' train.

 

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Please do some more research! The downward trend is very typical of all Presidents after they have settled in and it is typical for their ratings to hover in the high forties ... Read More 

Please do some more research! The downward trend is very typical of all Presidents after they have settled in and it is typical for their ratings to hover in the high forties to mid fifties...

Do some research on GWB and his ratings after he got elected for the second time and then after he left office after that term...

Still wanna talk about the "devil & details"...???

 

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"Polls change from day to day and only mean something when analyzed over a period of time... "

Yep, and the "trend", my friend, is downward....waaaay ... Read More 

"Polls change from day to day and only mean something when analyzed over a period of time... "

Yep, and the "trend", my friend, is downward....waaaay down.

 

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So sad to hear about San Benito. I used to live in Los Fresnos and worked in Harligen and moved in 1987. I had a son born there and there was some great doctors. It is even ... Read More 

So sad to hear about San Benito. I used to live in Los Fresnos and worked in Harligen and moved in 1987. I had a son born there and there was some great doctors. It is even sadder that with our new transformed mandated health care it will be like this around the country. We will have to go back to basics. I am hoping there will be a few doctors that will become "black market" doctors. I had the opportunity to meet one of those when my husband was stationed in Holland. Three times my kids needed urgent treatment and military docs were inept and appointments could not be had for months. Dutch friends hooked me up with a doctor under the radar so that my kids could get the care they needed. This was in 1977, 1978 & 1980. And yes, they had/have social health care.

 

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From Faux News... I tried not to laugh out loud while reading this...???

"Effective immediately, there is zero tolerance for on-screen errors. Mistakes by any member ... Read More 

From Faux News... I tried not to laugh out loud while reading this...???

"Effective immediately, there is zero tolerance for on-screen errors. Mistakes by any member of the show team that end up on air may result in immediate disciplinary action against those who played significant roles in the “mistake chain,” and those who supervise them. That may include warning letters to personnel files, suspensions, and other possible actions up to and including termination, and this will all obviously play a role in performance reviews. So we now face a great opportunity to review and improve on our workflow and quality control efforts. To make the most of that opportunity, effective immediately, Newsroom is going to “zero base” our newscast production. That means we will start by going to air with only the most essential, basic, and manageable elements. To share a key quote from today’s meeting: “It is more important to get it right, than it is to get it on.” We may then build up again slowly as deadlines and workloads allow so that we can be sure we can quality check everything before it makes air, and we never having to explain, retract, qualify or apologize again. Please know that jobs are on the line here. I can not stress that enough."

In order for this to stick there are several members they'll need to fire! Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Steve Doocy, Gretchen Carlson, just to name a few!!! Maybe Rupert Murdoch will fire himself... Na, not a chance, they are all safe - the complete hypocracy of it ALL!!!!

 

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Case in point - Obama's approval rating has already gone up one full percentage point since my last posting...!

 

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We would expect nothing less from the Right Leaning polster who was a paid consultant for none other than GWB himself and with whom Faux News utilizes regularly... ... Read More 

We would expect nothing less from the Right Leaning polster who was a paid consultant for none other than GWB himself and with whom Faux News utilizes regularly...

Polls change from day to day and only mean something when analyzed over a period of time...

 

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"The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 56% now oppose the plan."

"Just 38% of voters now favor the health care plan proposed ... Read More 

"The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 56% now oppose the plan."

"Just 38% of voters now favor the health care plan proposed by President Obama and congressional Democrats. That’s the lowest level of support measured for the plan in nearly two dozen tracking polls conducted since June. "

 

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Last week OUR President's rating was at 55% (didn't hear a peep from you then) and BTW when President Bush finally left office it was o/a 22 - what's the point?

 

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From the Los Angeles Times, (a Left-wing newspaper):
“Depending, of course, on which recent set of numbers you peruse and how the questions are phrased, 307 days into his ... Read More 

From the Los Angeles Times, (a Left-wing newspaper):
“Depending, of course, on which recent set of numbers you peruse and how the questions are phrased, 307 days into his allotted 1,461 the 44th president's approval rating among Americans has slid to 49% or 48%, showing no popularity bounce from his many happy trips, foreign and domestic.”

I think the MAJORITY is speaking loud and clear now.

 

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The current fearmongering in relation to healthcare and healthcare insurance reform is nothing more than history repeating itself... Social Security, remember how it was ... Read More 

The current fearmongering in relation to healthcare and healthcare insurance reform is nothing more than history repeating itself... Social Security, remember how it was going to destroy America?

A few GOP quotes on Social Security from the 30’s:

Rep. John Taber (R-NY), 4/19/35: Never in the history of the world has any measure been brought here so insidiously designed as to prevent business recovery, to enslave workers and to prevent any possibility of the employers providing work for the people.

Rep. Daniel Reed (R-NY), 1935: The lash of the dictator will be felt and 25 million free American citizens will for the first time submit themselves to a fingerprint test.

Rep. James W. Wadsworth (R-NY), 1935: This bill opens the door and invites the entrance into the political field of a power so vast, so powerful as to threaten the integrity of our institutions and to pull the pillars of the temple down upon the heads of our descendants.

Same old song and dance... oh the sheer horror of it all... Again, they're not affraid that it won't work, they're scared to death that it will!!!

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Perhaps your “research” might carry a little more weight if, instead of simply posting nonsense, you actually attempted to do some real research instead of presenting nothing ... Read More 

Perhaps your “research” might carry a little more weight if, instead of simply posting nonsense, you actually attempted to do some real research instead of presenting nothing more than political bias...

Of course, even if you got to that point, we’d still have to examine the implied equivalence and decide if there is a similar, consistent political bias...
"Tighty-Righties" consistantly claim such an equivalence but I have never seen one actually provide compelling proof that it exists.

And even if you got that second step accomplished, we’d still have to deal with the “two wrongs make a right” logical fallacy that lies at the heart of what is clearly a deeply flawed, structurally unsound, & biased "research".

Thanks for trying though... Better luck next time!

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Opinion Dynamics Corp. conducted the national telephone poll of 900 registered voters. The results were as follows.

The "real" majority of Americans:

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Opinion Dynamics Corp. conducted the national telephone poll of 900 registered voters. The results were as follows.

The "real" majority of Americans:

"By 51 percent to 35 percent, the public opposes the reform legislation being considered right now by Congress. Last month, a majority opposed the health care legislation by a similar 54-35 percent (October 13-14, 2009)."

The self dillusionary majority:

"While a majority of Democrats favor the reforms (65 percent), some 17 percent are opposed and another 18 percent are unsure. Most Republicans (82 percent) and a majority of independents (61 percent) oppose the legislation."

 

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Continue to be be satisfied with your opinions and content with your "knowledge"... Like Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. once said "Nothing in the world is more ... Read More 

Continue to be be satisfied with your opinions and content with your "knowledge"... Like Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. once said "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than a sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.”

No matter how the GOP tries to paint things, no matter how many lies, no matter how many mis-truths, no matter how much hatred you have for this much needed, healthcare reform, no matter how often they try to mis-inform, this is the simple fact, the MAJORITY is speaking out!! The house has already passed the reform whereby the MAJORITY spoke! The Senate has also moved us yet another step closer (By a MAJORITY) to healthcare and healthcare insurance reform - they got their 60!!!

Once again the party of "NO" is still sitting in the back seat of the car of reform watching out the rear window viewing where we've been instead of watching where we're going!!!

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Unless I'm mistaken, San Benito is in the heart of the 28th Congressional District, which is presently represented by none other than Henry Cuellar.... ... Read More 

Unless I'm mistaken, San Benito is in the heart of the 28th Congressional District, which is presently represented by none other than Henry Cuellar....

Surely he must be aware of this terrible situation in the heart of his district. Well, maybe he's just too busy reading the 2000+ page Pelosi/Reid health care monstrosity to actually do something to really help ALL the folks in his district.

Maybe Cuellar is just too busy with teleconfernce town halls, desperately trying to "persuade" the voters how compassionate he is and how good this healthcare bill is for all those 34% of his supporters who don't have health insurance. Little do they know, and he's not about to tell them that this government run healthcare will not be free.

Of course, the poor, uninsured folks in San Benito don't even have a hospital ER to go to when they catch a cold.

What's a good liberal to do, Mr. Cuellar?

 

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Tom you must be wrong. Don't you know the AMA supports Obamacare. That has to mean that all doctors support it. Wrong! Unfortunately I have been in contact with a bunch ... Read More 

Tom you must be wrong. Don't you know the AMA supports Obamacare. That has to mean that all doctors support it. Wrong! Unfortunately I have been in contact with a bunch of doctors and healthcare providers in the last few months. I have not talked to a single one who thought the Obamacare plan was a good idea. Keep up the good writing.