One Opinion: Who built this country? Business or government?

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Not just at the state level, but it really begins at the LOCAL level. (Although our local official don't recognize what they are doing. They are just used to raising taxes ... Read More 

Not just at the state level, but it really begins at the LOCAL level. (Although our local official don't recognize what they are doing. They are just used to raising taxes to get what they want -- just look at the county's outrageous insurance. No private company could exist with that kind of expense.)

 

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People built this country! Blood and sweat! Government is supposed to be there to insure our constitution and our God-given rights.
I think Obama is narrow-minded. I'm ... Read More 

People built this country! Blood and sweat! Government is supposed to be there to insure our constitution and our God-given rights.
I think Obama is narrow-minded. I'm angry he has taken from the Medicare fund to back his Obamacare plan. The Social Security fund & Medicare fund are not to be touched but for what they were set up for. All he has done since in office, is spend! Government is too big and that's why we have so many problems now. Unfortunately, this is going on in the state level of government also.

 

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Who built this country? Business or Government. To properly answer this question, ask yourself: Could busines exist and thrive without Government? The answer would be ... Read More 

Who built this country? Business or Government. To properly answer this question, ask yourself: Could busines exist and thrive without Government? The answer would be that business would increase and thrive to untol limits. Could Government thrive without business? Government would see their revenues reduce drasticically, all services that government need and use would disappear and there would be no reason to have a government. So, would you rather do without your 60" tv or your Senator? That is also an easy one.

 

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The president is not to be trusted when it comes to making taxing decisions. Now he claims to be FOR small business, but if you look at his record, he has caused nothing ... Read More 

The president is not to be trusted when it comes to making taxing decisions. Now he claims to be FOR small business, but if you look at his record, he has caused nothing but grief for small business owners. They do not want subsidies and rebates -- they want the freedom to do business based on free enterprise.

 

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Wilson county values are not Chicago values.
Enough said. Enjoy your chicken and waffle fries
on the first day of August.

 

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I'll take you at your word, Alvin.

 

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Elaine- my apologies. I posted my last comment without seeing your post about being off topic. I will refrain from further comment on this thread.

 

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Comments have gotten off topic.

 

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Obaba has no religious beliefs of any kind except maybe the Muslim religion. Religion to Obaba is just like everything else in his life...it is about the appearances. A ... Read More 

Obaba has no religious beliefs of any kind except maybe the Muslim religion. Religion to Obaba is just like everything else in his life...it is about the appearances. A President can get by if he doesn't wear his religion on his sleeve, but if he says religion is not important in his life, he's a cooked goose. If Obaba has any religious feelings at all, I suspect he leans toward being Muslim. Remember his religious mentor, Rev Wright? The same one that preached hate and racism and Obaba attended listened to for 20 years. He promptly peed on Wright as soon as it appeared many were finding out his affiliation with Obaba. Remember Obaba's "White" Grandmother in Hawaii? The same one that he said was racist? So, if you'll stab your Grandma and your religious mentor in the back, what won't you do?

Obaba is a Socialist/Communist/Marxist Muslim...I believe that pretty much covers him. And, that's alright to be all that, but at least be upfront and transparent about it. Don't try to lie and deceive the folk that put you in office about what you are.

I don't care whether the Mormons are Christian or not. I've seen how they practice their religion and they are much more dedicated to their principles than Cathlics, Baptist, Methodists, etc. That's really what religion is all about...having a definite set of moral principles and live and think and believe in those principles and Mormans do that more so than most religions.

 

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Prairie you are being disticntly dishonest. I am guilty of rounding, not lying.
Your numbers, and my numbers have both lead to the same conclusion, that mormons clearly ... Read More 

Prairie you are being disticntly dishonest. I am guilty of rounding, not lying.
Your numbers, and my numbers have both lead to the same conclusion, that mormons clearly and obviously vote for mormons. Almost every elected official in utah is a member of the LDS. Every member of congress, and every member of their supreme court. It is not a subject of debate, mormons vote for mormons.

Mormons are not christians.

The most obvious thing to debate is if Romney is backed and supported, and pledges allegiance to the LDS -i strongly believe the LDS is buying the election.

 

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Alvin....again, as always, you fail to acknowledge that
your stated comments are incorrect as pointed out in my
last comment. Come on, man up and admit it when you
put ... Read More 

Alvin....again, as always, you fail to acknowledge that
your stated comments are incorrect as pointed out in my
last comment. Come on, man up and admit it when you
put out false information.
Utah does not list religious preference on their
voter rolls and no exit polling on religious preference
was conducted in 2008 nor in 2010 so your and my
opinion of how Mormons voted cannot be backed up
with hard data.

 

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Prairie you can attack me but my points are correct. Mormons are not Christian and Mormons vote on religious beliefs. Why should we be asked to ignore ... Read More 

Prairie you can attack me but my points are correct. Mormons are not Christian and Mormons vote on religious beliefs. Why should we be asked to ignore our Christian beliefs?

 

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FACTS......Mitt got 95 percent of the vote in the
Utah GOP primary according Alvin....fact is 89.49 percent.
Alvin say they are 274 million Christians in one
comment and ... Read More 

FACTS......Mitt got 95 percent of the vote in the
Utah GOP primary according Alvin....fact is 89.49 percent.
Alvin say they are 274 million Christians in one
comment and in another comment he claims that they
are 250 million.
Wait, I must have taken those quotes out of
context. Alvin would make a perfect politician.

 

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Bob i don't understand your comment at all. I vote for Christian candidates, i make no apologies for that. We have had discussion that ked to the conclusion that Mormons ... Read More 

Bob i don't understand your comment at all. I vote for Christian candidates, i make no apologies for that. We have had discussion that ked to the conclusion that Mormons also unapologetically vote for Mormons, and that Mormons are not Christians.

I believe this is a substantive conversation, that is on target with the article, which refers to a god fearing person being in office. The only problem I see with my comments that you object to are that the true god fearing person is not the candidate you prefer.

If anything Prairie's comments about Harry Reid demonstrate that Mormons vote against their own political alignment when religion is a factor- and that ought to scare everyone.

 

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Alvin,

If Obama weren't a professing Christian, you would not even be spewing your ridiculous views. I only wish Obama were a declared Buddhist, Sikh, Shintoist, Wiccan, ... Read More 

Alvin,

If Obama weren't a professing Christian, you would not even be spewing your ridiculous views. I only wish Obama were a declared Buddhist, Sikh, Shintoist, Wiccan, or Atheist. You wouldn't be able to vote in this election at all. Actually, that may not be such a bad idea.

Now, can you and Prairie Grouch see your way fit to actually debate the contents of the opinion piece?

 

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All religious voters vote with bias. You simple twit.
If faith and religious conviction did not figure into
a voter decision, then that faith and religious
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All religious voters vote with bias. You simple twit.
If faith and religious conviction did not figure into
a voter decision, then that faith and religious
conviction would not be very strong. Catholics
are the largest denomination in Mass. and they elected
Mitt. as governor. Maybe you ought to reread the
well reasoned article by Be Careful. But you just go
ahead and spread your hateful bias if it makes you
feel better. I'm sure that you must be far wiser than
those who will consider the faith and policies of both
candidates and vote accordingly. In your mind, I guess
it's better to vote for an incompetent if his opponent
does not meet your litmus test. Thank the lord that
most Americans aren't that dumb.

 

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Prairie- actually 62% of Utah self declares as LDS, this does not account for the FLDS and various disgusting sects that also voted for Romney.

So answer the questoon, ... Read More 

Prairie- actually 62% of Utah self declares as LDS, this does not account for the FLDS and various disgusting sects that also voted for Romney.

So answer the questoon, do Mormons vote with religious bias? thats the point right, do they?

 

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Alvin.....In the 2008 GOP primary, Mitt received 89.49
percent of the vote, not 95%. Mormons comprise a little
over 62% of the Utah state population so I guess Mitt
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Alvin.....In the 2008 GOP primary, Mitt received 89.49
percent of the vote, not 95%. Mormons comprise a little
over 62% of the Utah state population so I guess Mitt
received a good portion of votes from 37 plus percent of
non Mormon population. I know this won't make sense
to you. Have you ever considered relocation to Salem,
Mass. where the season is always open for witch hunting ?
I wonder how Mitt survived all those years in witch
country, let alone being elected Governor.

 

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Prairie- prove it. How many mormons voted for Angle? You said you wanted to deal only in facts. Im using facts. You have no facts to support your whimsical, nonsensical statement. ... Read More 

Prairie- prove it. How many mormons voted for Angle? You said you wanted to deal only in facts. Im using facts. You have no facts to support your whimsical, nonsensical statement. Romney received 95% of the vote in utah- answer the question- was that a religious vote?

Utah is as close to a theocracy as you will find inside a free nation, i have posted it, as fact. Virtually every single elected official in the state is a member of the LDS. Is that truth?

Answer some questions, use some facts.

Are you going to insult our intelligence and claim that Mormons do not vote with religious bias?

 

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The LDS church is the second largest christian
denomination in the state of Nevada. With about 9
out of 20 voters pulling the lever for Angle, I
think it's a safe assumption ... Read More 

The LDS church is the second largest christian
denomination in the state of Nevada. With about 9
out of 20 voters pulling the lever for Angle, I
think it's a safe assumption that she might have
gotten a few thousand Mormon votes. By the way does
the fact that a very very large percentage of black voters
opted for Obama conjure up a black nation
in your mind ? Furthermore, religious preference do
not appear on voter registration rolls, your assumption is suspect as it is not based on hard facts.
Remember, pray for the twenty million christian
souls that you misplaced.

 

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Just go to wikipedia and look up theocracy, it uses utah as an example...

En.wikipedia.org/Wiki/theocracy

Seems very sinister to me. President? Its incredible that ... Read More 

Just go to wikipedia and look up theocracy, it uses utah as an example...

En.wikipedia.org/Wiki/theocracy

Seems very sinister to me. President? Its incredible that any christian would consider it.

 

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Prairie how does a nevada election prove your point? Utah is a mormon theocracy, show me Utah numbers.

In utah, you don't get elected unless you are mormon. They vote ... Read More 

Prairie how does a nevada election prove your point? Utah is a mormon theocracy, show me Utah numbers.

In utah, you don't get elected unless you are mormon. They vote for a mormon if they have a choice- over and over again this is proven. In the 2008 primary romney got a huge win, he isnt from Utah, he wasnt the front runner- answer it, why did he get 95% of the vote? You know, and everyone here knows he got those votes because he is a mormon.

 

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Fox news report on the 2nd Quarter economy growth of
of 1.5 percent has the following caption....
'OBAMA BUILT THAT'
It gets funnier by the day......just like Hallmark..
the ... Read More 

Fox news report on the 2nd Quarter economy growth of
of 1.5 percent has the following caption....
'OBAMA BUILT THAT'
It gets funnier by the day......just like Hallmark..
the gift that keeps on giving.

 

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Alvin.....there you go again....you indicated that
Mormons would not vote for a Christian...The figures
dispute that and you say that is does not make
sense. Mormon are ... Read More 

Alvin.....there you go again....you indicated that
Mormons would not vote for a Christian...The figures
dispute that and you say that is does not make
sense. Mormon are against gay marriage. Obama,
who espouses to be a Christian, endorses gay marriage
in conflict with the Christian scripture. What point
about this does not make sense to you. When confronted
with facts, you just resort to nonsense. By the way
you have not explained what happened to the 24 million
Christians referenced in two of your previous comments.
Maybe the truth lions ate them.

 

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Prairie your point about Nevada makes no sense.
Your point about marriage makes no sense.

Muslims are against gay marriage too, every religioun preaches good acts and ... Read More 

Prairie your point about Nevada makes no sense.
Your point about marriage makes no sense.

Muslims are against gay marriage too, every religioun preaches good acts and works. Witches are good neighbors, I'm not voting for one.

 

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4th Generation Texan.......Congratulations.....
You used no asterisks to mask profanity and no
abbreviations to mask vulgar phrases. There might
be hope for you after ... Read More 

4th Generation Texan.......Congratulations.....
You used no asterisks to mask profanity and no
abbreviations to mask vulgar phrases. There might
be hope for you after all. Just one BLAH back to
you.

 

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Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah.

 

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Alvin......Mormons don't vote for Christians....
2010 Nevada Senate race vote count.
Harry Reid (Mormon) 362,785
Sharon Angle (Baptist) 321,361
Come on Alvin, you're ... Read More 

Alvin......Mormons don't vote for Christians....
2010 Nevada Senate race vote count.
Harry Reid (Mormon) 362,785
Sharon Angle (Baptist) 321,361
Come on Alvin, you're making it too easy.

 

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Let me see if I can muddle through all this. BHO
claims to be a christian but thinks it's okay if a
man marries a man and a woman marries a woman. He
was against it ... Read More 

Let me see if I can muddle through all this. BHO
claims to be a christian but thinks it's okay if a
man marries a man and a woman marries a woman. He
was against it before he was for it. Shades of John
Kerry. According to Alvin, Mitt is not a christian but
upholds the teachings of the bible concerning marriage.
Do I have this correct ?
Hey, the left has a new bogeyman......chicken
and waffle fries. I don't know about the rest of
you but I plan to have a large portion of
chicken with waffle fries on the first of August
I will probably get my order to go and avoid the
planned kiss-in show. You know, stomach turning and
all that. I wonder what the mayor and Louis will be
eating that day ?

 

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Mormons don't vote for christians. Huckabee got 1% of the utah vote in the 2008 primary. Romney got 90% of the utah vote.

Why? Romney was not the frontrunner. He was ... Read More 

Mormons don't vote for christians. Huckabee got 1% of the utah vote in the 2008 primary. Romney got 90% of the utah vote.

Why? Romney was not the frontrunner. He was not the most conservative candidate.

Do you believe religion did not play a factor in that result?

 

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The political figures of two major cities in the
United States of America are punishing a Christian
businessman for his religious beliefs.

FIRST, THEY CAME FOR THE ... Read More 

The political figures of two major cities in the
United States of America are punishing a Christian
businessman for his religious beliefs.

FIRST, THEY CAME FOR THE MORMONS.

 

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Senior- when you realize that Mitt openly proudly believes he will actually become a god your joke isnt that funny. Its funny to mock obama, call him a muslim, call him the ... Read More 

Senior- when you realize that Mitt openly proudly believes he will actually become a god your joke isnt that funny. Its funny to mock obama, call him a muslim, call him the messiah,,,but Mitt factually and actually believes this, and it isnt just a political hack job- he believes it.

If Obama said he believes he will become a god, and that the virgin mary wasnt really a virgin... You wouldnt think it was funny- you'd think he was crazy.

 

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SENIOR CITIZEN....Thanks for the parody link......best
laugh this week.....Bookmarked it for future laughs...
you made my day......

 

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Who thinks he's god? Newsweek Nov. 22, 2010: “Obama God of all Things.”

From Hardball: “In a way Obama is standing above the country, above the world. He’s sort of GOD. ... Read More 

Who thinks he's god? Newsweek Nov. 22, 2010: “Obama God of all Things.”

From Hardball: “In a way Obama is standing above the country, above the world. He’s sort of GOD. ... He is going to say, ‘Now, children, stop fighting and quarreling with each other.’ And he has a kind of a moral authority that he can do that.”


Read more: http://politicaloutcast.com/2012/07/the-god-obama-and-readings-from-the-book-of-barack-a-parody/#ixzz21kDVkOUB

 

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Alvin.....Voting for the one to clean up the mess.
I'm curious, did you vote for Obama last time....if so,
how's that working out for you.....Obama people voted for hope
and ... Read More 

Alvin.....Voting for the one to clean up the mess.
I'm curious, did you vote for Obama last time....if so,
how's that working out for you.....Obama people voted for hope
and change and all they got was change and it was in
very small coins..LOL...I feel certain that my vote
will not have any effect on my personal salvation.
I also have serious doubts that your vote will raise
the creators opinion of you.

 

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Alvin.....Are you voting for Obama or staying home ?
Hey, don't forget the Green party......take care,
don't take it personal.....I just love poking the
goose ... Read More 

Alvin.....Are you voting for Obama or staying home ?
Hey, don't forget the Green party......take care,
don't take it personal.....I just love poking the
goose to hear it squawk.....

 

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Prairie i havd no beef with the mormons, i just wont vote for one. I'm Allowed to not vote for someone who doesn't believe as I believe- thats a pretty basic thing here ... Read More 

Prairie i havd no beef with the mormons, i just wont vote for one. I'm Allowed to not vote for someone who doesn't believe as I believe- thats a pretty basic thing here in america. Mitt can run, he can pray to whatever he wants to pray to- he can give all his money to the lds- i don't care- but, Asking me to vote for him is a whole other thing- because I do not support his beliefs. his beliefs are so very far from my own that I view them with shock.

 

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Prairie i never voted for clinton, i voted republican both times. Big miss buddy.

 

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Alvin attacks the Church of Jesus Christ of the
Later Day Saints.....Obama and his DOJ attacks the
Catholic church.....Fine pair......

 

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Alvin....interesting outlook on fitness to serve.....
I suppose you applied the same standard to President
Clinton...or does it only apply to republicans ?????
Fair and ... Read More 

Alvin....interesting outlook on fitness to serve.....
I suppose you applied the same standard to President
Clinton...or does it only apply to republicans ?????
Fair and balanced poster child ??????

 

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You shouldnt forget that Mitt got 4 draft deferrments for vietnam, he was busy being on a mission.... in france..
Also interesting that when asked why none of his 5 sons ... Read More 

You shouldnt forget that Mitt got 4 draft deferrments for vietnam, he was busy being on a mission.... in france..
Also interesting that when asked why none of his 5 sons have served his response is that he considers their time campaigning for him as service to the country...

Not fit.

 

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The emperor may not have clothes, but his ego is alive and well.

 

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But the Emperor has no clothes....

 

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Bow to the king, bow to emperor....come on BHO do it
again to make America proud. A true leader takes the
blame for failure but never takes credit for success.
The contrast ... Read More 

Bow to the king, bow to emperor....come on BHO do it
again to make America proud. A true leader takes the
blame for failure but never takes credit for success.
The contrast between the speeches of Bush and Obama
is startling. The large difference of personal pronouns
usage is revealing about the man.

 

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I use to think Jimmy Carter would go down in History as one of the worst Presidents, but I've got a new candidate. Jimmy Carter looks like a genuis at running the Executive ... Read More 

I use to think Jimmy Carter would go down in History as one of the worst Presidents, but I've got a new candidate. Jimmy Carter looks like a genuis at running the Executive Branch compared to Nononobaba.

 

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the Navy Seals using information gathered by the CIA under President Bush were responsible for his capture. Obaba taking ALL the credit for getting Bin Laden is both laughable ... Read More 

the Navy Seals using information gathered by the CIA under President Bush were responsible for his capture. Obaba taking ALL the credit for getting Bin Laden is both laughable and sickening. Never saw anyone that turns my stomach and makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up like Obaba.

 

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Navy Seals.

 

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Who got bin laden?

 

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What the GOP really need is a picture of our commander
in chief driving a tank.....You know sorta like Michael
Dukakis..I'm already laughing at the image in my mind...
Of ... Read More 

What the GOP really need is a picture of our commander
in chief driving a tank.....You know sorta like Michael
Dukakis..I'm already laughing at the image in my mind...
Of course it could be an improvement of the pictures
showing our proud American president bowing to foreign leaders.
Doesn't those pictures make you proud to be an American ?
Who needs Joe when you have BHO ?

 

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Who is going to be this years joe the plumber? How can we have an election without the symbolism of a joe the plumber....

 

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Puzzled.......Just read the transcript released by the
white house.....It has the same quote as Elaine used
in her editorial. Come on man, fess up and apologize.
If no ... Read More 

Puzzled.......Just read the transcript released by the
white house.....It has the same quote as Elaine used
in her editorial. Come on man, fess up and apologize.
If no acknowledgement of your lie is forthcoming, all your
future statements will be suspect. Like Joe Louis said
to Billy Conn.....you can run but you can't hide.

 

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All the money is in reality tv nowadays, sarah palin, huck, elaine have figured it out.

 

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It's too bad that Democrats let the radical segment of their party take control. I remember when Texas was pretty much a Democrat state, but The dems screwed that up. ... Read More 

It's too bad that Democrats let the radical segment of their party take control. I remember when Texas was pretty much a Democrat state, but The dems screwed that up. I really don't think a large number of Democrats give a damn about America. That's an easy assumption after analyizing their positions on very important matters. Obaba has been overstepping his authority for 3 1/2 years and increasing the power and intrusiveness of the Federal Government. I don't believe there's any doubt that Obaba is a racist, hates America, thinks the Constitution is an old, out of date document. And, don't even get me started on his foolish rush to spend every cent the Govt can collect from taxes, borrow from China, and Print via the Fed Reserve. And, it's more than obvious that Obaba either knows next to nothing about how to run an aconomy, or he doesn't care if several million citizens are out of work.

If Obaba can be elected in this country, then we are at some point open to electing someone like a Lenin or Hitler. The USA has to have the most ignorant, stupid, uninformed voters in any country that votes and will fall for a catchy slogan like "hope and change"...what if Obaba was evil like Hitler, would he have been elected in 2008? I believe so. I don't believe he's evil, I just believe he's a radical that is in way over his head.

 

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Some Dude, you keep saying the rest of us. My taxes also paid.
As for "Hmmm. I think it's easy to take one sentence out of the context and create a straw man argument ... Read More 

Some Dude, you keep saying the rest of us. My taxes also paid.
As for "Hmmm. I think it's easy to take one sentence out of the context and create a straw man argument against what you are proposing that it's saying.", all sides tend to do that just as you do.
No matter what the left says about the right, the left keeps going down in the polls. Right now you and others are trying to salvage those you can and I don't blame you because they are dropping off at a pretty good rate.

 

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Critical thinking ???? A great teacher instructs many
students over his or her career. Do all of the students
of this excellent teacher open their own business ?
If not, ... Read More 

Critical thinking ???? A great teacher instructs many
students over his or her career. Do all of the students
of this excellent teacher open their own business ?
If not, then it must have something to do with individual
initiative.

 

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In part - Mother Theresa said in her "Paradoxical"

"What you spend years building, someone could destroy overnight. ... Build Anyway. ... Read More 

In part - Mother Theresa said in her "Paradoxical"

"What you spend years building, someone could destroy overnight. ... Build Anyway.
... "You see, in the final analysis, it is between you and God.
It was never between you and them - Anyway."

 

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I can't find who said this but I believe this is true.

You can give all of the rich mans' money to the poor man and within ten years, the rich man will be rich again ... Read More 

I can't find who said this but I believe this is true.

You can give all of the rich mans' money to the poor man and within ten years, the rich man will be rich again and poor man will be poor again.

In truth, it is not about how much money one has - but what they do with it. .. How we handle money is a good measuring stick of our self discipline and maturity.

Being able to hit a balance between being a greedy miser and an undisciplined spend thrift is a challenge.

Wealth is subjective anyway. Ask the rich man with teminal cancer.

The age old ploy of ripping the citizens apart by pointing out the "have and have nots" is just that - a worn out ploy.
They keep us bickering and distracking us with BS - and we keep taking the bait.
If a person wants more money - get a job - create a business if no one will hire you. Get a can of Ajax - someone needs your help with housework. Change the way you think and behave. Then and only then will the quality of our lives change. No one can do it for us. No government - no politician - no parent - no welfare program.

 

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4th Gen. Texan......simple twit.....RE GDMF...Well you
managed to include a deity condemned incestuous sexual
activity in just four letters. It amazes me that a
grown ... Read More 

4th Gen. Texan......simple twit.....RE GDMF...Well you
managed to include a deity condemned incestuous sexual
activity in just four letters. It amazes me that a
grown man of my generation delights in spreading smut.
My comment about the wheel was in support of the
editors stance but I guess it just passed over the
head of a mental midget.

 

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Not 'tongue-in-cheek', but 'foot in mouth'.

 

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4th Gen. Texan......Was your last comments on the wheel
in response to my "tongue in cheek" comment ?

 

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Puzzled......Well, I guess that makes us about even,
a lot folks think that main stream journalists are
fruitcakes.

You did not respond to the main point of my ... Read More 

Puzzled......Well, I guess that makes us about even,
a lot folks think that main stream journalists are
fruitcakes.

You did not respond to the main point of my comment
which is that you accused Elaine of misquoting the
presidents remarks. I have personally read articles
from the New York times and other sources which contains
the exact same quote. The same quote contained in a
previous comment by yours truly was taken from an article by ABC
news. You owe the editor and the readership an apology.
A real man would have no problem in admitting his
mistake.

 

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And, Henry Ford didn't make Ford Motor Company just cause someone else invented the wheel?

So, I suppose there was a wheel just laying on the ground out in the woods ... Read More 

And, Henry Ford didn't make Ford Motor Company just cause someone else invented the wheel?

So, I suppose there was a wheel just laying on the ground out in the woods and jumped up and said, "I think I need to find someone that can find a good purposeful use for me. I'm going to print and advertise my self as being available for inventions and place on signs and hang them on trees around the countryside and hope someone sees those signs and uses me to invent a car, a factory, and a production line. I will change my name to Federal Government as soon as that person gets me into production to make something useful." I don't want it to ever be thought that someone other than Government was ever responsible for anything good happening to the market place.

 

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I love Ayn Rand. It stands to reason, therefore, that the "mainstream journalists" would classify her as a fruitcake. They belittle anyone who does not agree ... Read More 

I love Ayn Rand. It stands to reason, therefore, that the "mainstream journalists" would classify her as a fruitcake. They belittle anyone who does not agree with their liberal philosophy.

 

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Listen up "idiots"...Fox news has gone to great lengths over the last few days to play the FULL VERSION of BABA's statement and believe me, it only gets worse ... Read More 

Listen up "idiots"...Fox news has gone to great lengths over the last few days to play the FULL VERSION of BABA's statement and believe me, it only gets worse not better. He, once in a while, reveals who he really is by a statement. And, that statement revealed that he dislikes small business and thinks everything is created and nursed by the Federal Government. He most definitely shows by his words and deeds to hate America, wants a welfar state, hates hard working business folk. If he put on a Putin hat and hairvest, other than color you wouldn't be able to tell them apart via their words and philosophy.

 

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Business or government built this country? You are kidding, aren't you? Business through all the many taxes they send to government pays for government, roads, the internet, ... Read More 

Business or government built this country? You are kidding, aren't you? Business through all the many taxes they send to government pays for government, roads, the internet, etc etc, and then businesses invest the necessary funds, marketing, strategy, sweat to bring in more revenue than they spend on taxes, salaries, building, supplies. that is one of the easiest questions you'll ever find. Wish I had had that question on some of my government/business courses in college. So, when BABA says that businesses didn't do it by themselves you have my permission to call "IT" a GDMF liar!

 

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Prairie, Do you know who Ann Rand is? She is a philosopher considered a fruit cake by main stream journalist. But I don't argue that she wrote that article; I just don't ... Read More 

Prairie, Do you know who Ann Rand is? She is a philosopher considered a fruit cake by main stream journalist. But I don't argue that she wrote that article; I just don't agree with her. I have been in business for 50 plus years, and I have never felt abused, belittled, threatened, or short changed by either political party in the US. Try setting up a sister company in Mexico like I did or in Singapore like I did, and you will be more than happy with the business climate in America under either party.

 

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Puzzled......My exact quote from the President listed
below came from ABC news. If you're going to engage
in a public debate, the least you could be is honest.
Express ... Read More 

Puzzled......My exact quote from the President listed
below came from ABC news. If you're going to engage
in a public debate, the least you could be is honest.
Express your ideas but don't lie.

Quote from Ann Rand.

" Every movement that seeks to enslave a country, every
dictatorship or potential dictatorship needs some minority as a scapegoat which it can blame for the
nation's troubles and use as a justification of its
own demands for dictatorial powers. In Soviet Russia,
it was the bourgeoisie; in Nazi Germany, it was the
Jewish people, in America, it is the businessmen."

 

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I want to know, who invented the Internet? Al Gore or Barack Obama?

 

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No Elaine, you quoted Fox News and Romney's ads, you DID NOT quote the President. Log on to CNN or ABC or NBC or CBS to get the true undoctored version of what the President ... Read More 

No Elaine, you quoted Fox News and Romney's ads, you DID NOT quote the President. Log on to CNN or ABC or NBC or CBS to get the true undoctored version of what the President said.

 

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I quoted the president correctly. You can interpret his quote as you please. Of course, a business has to have help from family, friends, and employees ... Read More 

I quoted the president correctly. You can interpret his quote as you please. Of course, a business has to have help from family, friends, and employees in order to be successful.

 

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Puzzled and Elaine......IF YOU'VE GOT A BUSINESS, YOU
DIDN'T BUILD THAT. SOMEBODY ELSE MADE THAT HAPPEN.

Elaine, you should have known that Henry Ford
did not ... Read More 

Puzzled and Elaine......IF YOU'VE GOT A BUSINESS, YOU
DIDN'T BUILD THAT. SOMEBODY ELSE MADE THAT HAPPEN.

Elaine, you should have known that Henry Ford
did not build the Ford Motor company. Someone else
invented the wheel. What were you thinking ?

 

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Elaine, you are too good of a journalist to resort to twisting what the President said to make your point. He did not say that if we built a business, someone else built. ... Read More 

Elaine, you are too good of a journalist to resort to twisting what the President said to make your point. He did not say that if we built a business, someone else built. He said if we built a business we didn't do it by ourselves...that some folks helped us along the way, which is true. My wife and I grew up dirt poor so someone gave is a National Defense loan with which to pay for our college; six years after we were degreed we finally paid off those loans. A kind old banker thought our business idea was a good one and he loaned us money to launch our business. My father in law, a wise business man himself, gave us a ton of good advice. Our stock broker talked us into investing heavily in the market in the late 80's and early 90's, and then had the wisdom to foresee the mini-crash of 2002. In 1998, he talked us into converting everything into annuities. Without his help, we would have lost everything. No, we did not accomplish what we have by ourselves; a lot of people helped us along the way. Shame on you for not printing the President's quote correctly.

 

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Elaine........I just read an excellent editorial by
Thomas Sowell reflecting on the same concerns that your
editorial expressed. I hope you will post this article.
Those ... Read More 

Elaine........I just read an excellent editorial by
Thomas Sowell reflecting on the same concerns that your
editorial expressed. I hope you will post this article.
Those of you that are interested can read the article
on Townhall.com.

 

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I must be getting confused in my twilight years although
I always thought that I was gaining wisdom. Let me see
if I can muddle through the idea that a business owner
did ... Read More 

I must be getting confused in my twilight years although
I always thought that I was gaining wisdom. Let me see
if I can muddle through the idea that a business owner
did not build their firm but that someone else did.
Universal education is available to all, hence the
term universal. Public infrastructure is available
for use by the whole population, hence the term public.
So all have equal use of the nations collective benefits
yet some succeed and some don't and the successful are
supposed to attribute their success to the efforts of
the less successful. This concept baffles me. The successful person repays society
in the form of creating jobs and the payment of higher
taxes. His or her employees also pay taxes. The less
successful person contributes less. I am reminded about
the reply a successful farmer to a comment about his
being lucky on owning such a fine farm "Yeah son, the
harder I worked, the luckier that I got."

Very confusing to an old man but I am sure that
it must be crystal clear to all the wannabe successful
people who don't have the essential delayed gratification
gene embedded in their DNA.

 

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Serna:
ENRON (not Enrin) declared bankruptcy. The government did not bail them out. They got NO taxpayer money to start up the company or after they declared bankruptcy.

So ... Read More 

Serna:
ENRON (not Enrin) declared bankruptcy. The government did not bail them out. They got NO taxpayer money to start up the company or after they declared bankruptcy.

So what if Bain USED to own Clear Communications. Is it a crime to own an company that employs Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh? They make a lot of $$ for the company and isn't that why they are in business? Making a profit is NOT a crime.

 

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Public school education......Gee I thought that 30 years
of paying school taxes is a good start of buying society
back for my education. This is especially true considering
that ... Read More 

Public school education......Gee I thought that 30 years
of paying school taxes is a good start of buying society
back for my education. This is especially true considering
that the schools that I attended were not nearly as plush
as there are today. The school district did not pay for
air conditioning or for bus service if you lived in town.
Lunches were supplied by our parents. I believe that
every self respecting US citizen should pay some income
tax. This includes retired people with income. A portion
of my social security is taxed. The idea that almost
half of the people pay no income tax is disgraceful.
The earned income credit, the child tax credit, and
the child care tax deduction are just another form
of welfare that was not present during my child rearing
years. The country would be far better of if everyone
paid their actual fair share.

 

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Some Dude,

First of all, I want to congratulate you on taking your government hand up (others peoples money) and deciding to establish, taking you at your word, a viable ... Read More 

Some Dude,

First of all, I want to congratulate you on taking your government hand up (others peoples money) and deciding to establish, taking you at your word, a viable free-market, capitalistic enterprise. Good job. I mean this sincerely. This is not meant to be sarcastic.

Secondly, I must thank you for somewhat unknowlingly proving the content of many others' thoughts on this blog, including myself. Be truthful with yourself ... you are self-interested, which is normal for a human being. You are also greedy, in a good way. Businesses are only in business for one reason, and that's to make as much profit/money as they can. And the more money they make, personally, the more difficult it becomes to close. That's human nature also, but somehow we now describe it as a pitiful failure of character. In reality it is an innate drive to reach the heights of our God given talents and abilities.

The most provate charitable donations (in dollars) are made by those who have been highly successful in life. That's a result of another innate yearning among all men.

So, I guess to conclude ... unless we get out of this notion to hate the risk-takers, who, like it or not, supply most of our jobs, we'll ultimately lose this greatest Republic ever established on this planet.

By the way Dude, why do you not mind giving 4-5% of your rightfully earned pofits to the government in order to support those among us who never tried? Is it some kind of personal unfounded guilt relief, or what?

 

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Some Dude......Thank you for supporting my social security
payments each month. I mean this sincerely. If it were
not for industrious people like you, the social security
system ... Read More 

Some Dude......Thank you for supporting my social security
payments each month. I mean this sincerely. If it were
not for industrious people like you, the social security
system would not exist. For each person like you who
created jobs, they are many who did not although they
received the same type of help. I suspect that you would
have succeeded in life without any government help.
I don't think that the benefits of the so called Great
Society outweigh the costs.

 

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Bob,

I have my own business and have employees in that business. In that capacity, I recognize that I have benefited from a public school education, federal grants and ... Read More 

Bob,

I have my own business and have employees in that business. In that capacity, I recognize that I have benefited from a public school education, federal grants and loans throughout undergraduate and graduate school, and government assisted healthcare during my education. Those things helped get me where I am today.

If I wanted to, I could now say "Well, I got mine. Everyone else needs to apply themselves and do the same.". But that's myopic, self-interested and wrong. I've benefited from the system. As such, I don't mind paying a little more in taxes to help give someone a hand up if they need it.

You can call names and label me a socialist for believing that way. How arguing over a 4-5% difference in marginal tax rate makes one a socialist and one a good American is beyond me, but in this day and age of hyerbolic debate, it's hardly surprising.

 

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Some Dude,

If it weren't for the 'risk takers' in this country having enough faith in themselves to start and hopefully grow an innovative idea into s profitable enterprise, ... Read More 

Some Dude,

If it weren't for the 'risk takers' in this country having enough faith in themselves to start and hopefully grow an innovative idea into s profitable enterprise, you, and the others referred to in both Obama's and Warren's prounouncements would be unemployed. If all the businesses in this nation were brought under the total control of the federal government in the name of income equality (spreading the wealth) through class warfare, most, if not all, would simply cease to exist.

If all our businesses, both tiny and large, would decide tomorrow to just take what's left and hang it up, our unemployment rate would be 100%! Until now they've done a remarkable job of keeping our unemployment rate at 15%. They are still fighting to survive and for that we should all be applauding them instead of attacking them.

Your (and Matilde's) defense of politically correct socialistic ideas is astounding, to say the least. Did it ever occur to you that those 'others' who paid the taxes to supply the infrastructure also use the roads, bridges, police officers, firemen, teachers, etc., also benefit greatly from the building of this great Republic? Where do you think the dollars you paid came from? Right ... the businesses, large and small, that employee you!

Before you write your next response to an opinion of this quality, study a little more, and heed President Lincoln's profundity when he said, "It is better to be thought a fool than to speak up and remove all doubt"!

 

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Some Dude.....And pray tell, what did the non business
owners contribute to the economic strength of this nation.
Did they create jobs ? Did all pay income taxes or just
the ... Read More 

Some Dude.....And pray tell, what did the non business
owners contribute to the economic strength of this nation.
Did they create jobs ? Did all pay income taxes or just
the top half ? Did everybody pay both sides of their
payroll taxes ? Business owners pay over half the costs of
the social security costs of this nation. The higher income
group pays much more than their fair share of the taxes
to support Medicare. In addition to this, Obama care
program has imposed a surtax on the high income earners.
It should be noted that the Medicare income salary cap was
removed in the early 1990s. It appears to me that
business owners have paid back society quite well.
Remember JFK's "Ask not your country can do for you,
ask what you can do for your country." Have you
liberals no self respect or shame.

 

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Some Dude.....And pray tell, what did the non business
owners contribute to the economic strength of this nation.
Did they create jobs ? Did all pay income taxes or just
the ... Read More 

Some Dude.....And pray tell, what did the non business
owners contribute to the economic strength of this nation.
Did they create jobs ? Did all pay income taxes or just
the top half ? Did everybody pay both sides of their
payroll taxes ? Business owners pay over half the costs of
the social security costs of this nation. The higher income
group pays much more than their fair share of the taxes
to support Medicare. In addition to this, Obama care
program has imposed a surtax on the high income earners.
It should be noted that the Medicare income salary was
removed in the early 1990s. It appears to me that
business owners have paid back society quite well.
Remember JFK's "Ask not your country can do for you,
ask what you can do for your country." Have you
liberals no self respect or shame.

 

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Grouch, don't waste your time trying to convince Matilde with that inconvenient thing called the truth. She is very comfortable living the "Life of Julia" and ... Read More 

Grouch, don't waste your time trying to convince Matilde with that inconvenient thing called the truth. She is very comfortable living the "Life of Julia" and waits by the mailbox for her next dose of heroin from the government.

 

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Matilde.......Virus Alert......Your computer has been
infected with the ID TEN T virus. Your firewall has
failed. Please call the Geek Squad immediately before
this virus ... Read More 

Matilde.......Virus Alert......Your computer has been
infected with the ID TEN T virus. Your firewall has
failed. Please call the Geek Squad immediately before
this virus infects other computers in Wilson county.

What we have here is a failure to communicate.
The collectively built infrastructure is available
to all. Only the bold seize the opportunity while
the timid live off their vision and efforts. Blessed
are the job creators for they shall pay most of the
taxes.

 

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Enrin was $64billion, is more than $4billion. Not good english, math good.

What job mitt romney have 2001? Bain capital own clear channel communication, sean hannity, ... Read More 

Enrin was $64billion, is more than $4billion. Not good english, math good.

What job mitt romney have 2001? Bain capital own clear channel communication, sean hannity, rush limbaugh work for clear channel communicatin.

What you get when church buy election. How to buy election 101 taught in public school

 

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Ms. Serna - Where do you get your information? Bush hurt the econmy by doing favors for Enron....Can you spell Solyndra,Solar Trust, Abound Solar and a half dozen other ... Read More 

Ms. Serna - Where do you get your information? Bush hurt the econmy by doing favors for Enron....Can you spell Solyndra,Solar Trust, Abound Solar and a half dozen other companies that are now bankrupt after Obama passed out over $4 BILLION of our taxpayer money.

By the way, I hope you're not the product of Floresville Public Schools. If so, they sure have gone downhill since I attended.

 

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Obama economy is stronger now. Stock market high, more jobs, Bush hurt economy by give favors to enron. Bush bad for economy. Romney no wants to take the credot for the job ... Read More 

Obama economy is stronger now. Stock market high, more jobs, Bush hurt economy by give favors to enron. Bush bad for economy. Romney no wants to take the credot for the job he did have.

 

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Precisely, Dude. My point exactly. The roads, police, fire, etc. were all paid for with taxes paid by those in business. Without businesses producing and paying taxes, we ... Read More 

Precisely, Dude. My point exactly. The roads, police, fire, etc. were all paid for with taxes paid by those in business. Without businesses producing and paying taxes, we would not have the roads and bridges and infrastructure we now have.

 

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Hmmm. I think it's easy to take one sentence out of the context and create a straw man argument against what you are proposing that it's saying.

Obama has made this ... Read More 

Hmmm. I think it's easy to take one sentence out of the context and create a straw man argument against what you are proposing that it's saying.

Obama has made this comment on many prior occasions. That it became an issue this week may have more to do with the rights perception of the week their candidate had and the need to change subjects. This statement, as it was made recently and on prior occasions, is not that the entrepreneur didn't build the business, but rather that the entrepreneur benefited from the entire physical and social infrastructure that allowed his business to flourish.

As Elizabeth Warren put it previously, "There is nobody in this country who got rich on his own. You built a factory out there? Good for you, but I want to be clear. You moved your goods to market on the roads that the rest of us paid for. You hired workers the rest of us paid to educate. You were safe in your factory because of police forces and fire forces that the rest of us paid for. You didn't have to worry that marauding bands would come and seize everyone at your factory and hire someone to protect against this, because of the work the rest of us did."

 

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This just fits the presidents narrative. He wants equal outcome not equal opportunity. Just watch the "Life of Julia" . Everything in Julia's life is subsidized ... Read More 

This just fits the presidents narrative. He wants equal outcome not equal opportunity. Just watch the "Life of Julia" . Everything in Julia's life is subsidized by the government. Our current white house resident is determined to crush capitalism and replace it with European socialism. This is why he must be made the "X" president in November.

 

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The president wouldn't understand. He's never started a business -- or even worked for one!

 

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