August 2, 2012 8:27am
|Alvin, based on your comment, I choose not to vote for non-christians, you could never vote for a Jew because they don't believe in Jesus (So, I guess you didn’t vote for Al Gore because of Joe Lieberman). This would hold true for other religions too. You would not do so well in Egypt where we ask Muslims to be open-minded. Anyhow, according to you, the candidate has to be a Christian only to get your vote. Then, if you are Christian you have to be a certain kind of Christian. However, even if you are the right kind of denomination of Christian, you don't have to follow any of the teachings of the church (Catholic), like gay marriage, abortion, etc.
For me, I believe God works with all people and choses to use them for the “Good.” Being bigoted and close minded like Alvin is not the love God speaks about. The New Testament talks a great deal about the conversion of Gentiles. Why did God allow his promise to the Jews, the chosen people, to be given to the Gentiles? He was the God of the Jews?
According to Alvin all a candidate has to say is I am one sort of Christian and I get his vote. They may be amoral, self-centered, devil in sheep clothes, etc. Judge not lest you be judged.
Further, Alvin states “The devil can act like a perfect gentleman, but he can't change what's in his heart and his intent.” So, are you saying Mitt Romney is the devil because he wants to ascend into heaven as a God? When has he said he wanted to ascend into heaven? Proof please. So, you know Romney’s heart? What bad things has Romney done? Does not his tree of life so far been well enough to earn praise and recognition for the good he has done? Church going, very charitable, still married and appears to be a “Good” person by all accounts. If you answer this question, ask the same of Mr Obama who spent years in a hateful church and does not follow the Catholic tenets of abortion and gay marriage. On the other hand, I bet you were a big George W Bush fan as he spouted off the most about his Christian convictions. I am sure he enjoyed your vote. Al Gore and John Kerry never followed their Churches' believes.
It is people like you who give Christians and all other religions a bad name. Further, I brought up many of the faults of the Roman Catholic Church. The candidates you support do not follow or support their doctrine and you have not addressed any of those comments. The treatment of Jews during WWII, the Crusades, the worshipping of the Virgin Mary, the Pope's infallibility on his thrown, and the question about how an outsider would say you have three Gods because the word Trinity means three, etc.
Prairie Grouch has presented facts that one could easily determine that the LDS church is a Christian church. Why should someone care about the religious choice of a candidate? None of them follow it except maybe George W. Do you really want a hardcore Catholic believer? Then you should have supported Rick Santorum. No abortion, etc. Or do you pick and choose based on your biased beliefs? Do you agreed with all the Roman Catholic teachings? How is the rhythm method for birth control working out for you? Those who use religious topics only to make their voting decisions; are picking the topics and using religion to their benefit and not God’s benefit. God will make the right choice. I would suggest prayer first and then logic to make a good argument.
Just because someone is Muslim, Jew or LDS is not disqualifier. John F Kennedy was sure glad the non-Catholics voted for him.
I say as long as the candidate appears to be reasonably moral and have the “best” ideas then he deserves consideration. We pick the candidate who represents are ideas best. Barrack Obama is a egotistical individual who worshipped in a vile church and is consolidating power into a small group of elites who will chose how we live (type of house, type of healthcare, what you can and cannot eat, what religion you can practice and where). Obama and his elitist friends don’t live in our world (private schools for kids, private colleges for them and payoff to friends – see stimulus). They are subjugating the masses by making them dependent on the government.
On the other hand, those voters who have an open mind realize smaller government equals more freedom. More freedom means more religious freedom.
Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr. described bigotry in the following quotation: "The mind of a bigot is like the pupil of the eye; the more light you pour upon it, the more it will contract.