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Wendy  
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July 9, 2008 11:24pm
 		 RE: Danny's list of quotes

"They are the result of a life of inquiry and reflection, and very different from that antichristian system imputed to me by those who know nothing of my opinions. To the corruptions of Christianity I am indeed opposed, but not to the genuine precepts of Jesus Himself." -- Thomas Jefferson to Benjamin Rush on the Christian Religion, "Library of American Literature"

"A more beautiful or precious morsel of ethics [collected by Jefferson from the sayings of Jesus & arranged in a blank book] I have never seen; it is a document in proof that I AM A REAL CHRISTIAN; that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus." -- Th. Jefferson, "Lives of the Presidents of the United States" by John S.C. Abbott & Russell H. Conwell

"1. The doctrines of Jesus are simple and tend to the happiness of man.
2. There is only one God, and He is all perfect.
3. There is a future state of rewards and punishment.
4. To love God with all the heart and thy neighbor as thyself is the sum of all. These are the great points on which to reform the religion of the Jews." --Thomas Jefferson, "Life of Jefferson" by Shmucher

"Throughout the whole period of the war he (Mr. Lincoln) constantly directed the attention of the nation to dependence on God. It may, indeed, be doubted whether he omitted this in a single state paper." --Vol. 1, 'Twenty Years of Congress' by James G. Blaine

"In regard to this great Book, I have only to say that it is the best gift God ever gave to man. All the good from the Saviour of the world is communicated through this Book. But for this Book we could not know right from wrong. All those things desirable for man are contained in it." -Abraham Lincoln, in acknowlegement of a Bible presented to him. A full report of the Address is in the Washington Chronicle, Sept. 5, 1864.

"The character of the Bible is easily established, at least to my satisfaction. We have to believe many things which we do not comprehend. The Bible is the only history that claims to be God's Book -- to comprise His laws, His history. It contains an immense ammount of evidence as to its authenticity . . . I decided long ago that it was less difficult to believe that the Bible was what it claimed to be than to disbelieve it." --A. Lincoln, 'Recollections of President Lincoln, and his Administration' by L.E. Chittenden, his Register of the Treasury

Lastly, William C. Rives writes in Vol. 1 of his 'Biography of James Madison': "Among his manuscripts are minute and elaborate notes made by him on the Gospels and the Acts of the Apostles, which evidence a close and discriminating study of the Sacred Writings . . . speaking of the words of Jesus to Paul at his conversion, he [Madison] says, 'It is not the TALKING [I can't do italics here as is in the original quote] but the WALKING and WORKING person that is the true Christian.' Again, 'Christ's Divinity appears by St. John, chapter xx, 2 . . . Resurrection testified to and witnessed by the Apostles, Acts iv, 33 . . .'"

I'm not sure where you get your quotes, but you might want to dig a little deeper into the biographies of some of these men, particularly Lincoln. I find it interesting that you ascribe to the idea that "all thinking men are atheists" and, conversely, anyone who believes in God cannot think and is stupid. Many, many highly intelligent people, including great philosophers (thinkers by definition), scientists (I'm not talking about modern scientists), revolutionaries and others were at the very least Deists, if not Christians. Seems to me YOU are the one who's intolerant of others and their ideas.

Oh, one other thing. You mentioned a while back (I've been busy and not had a chance to read this site in a while) that Genesis contradicts itself because it says God created plants before the sun, stating that it's impossible for plant life to survive without the sun. Well, you're right on one count -- the plants were created before sun. HOWEVER, God create LIGHT BEFORE He created plants. The sun is just a giant star. It's not light itself. Plants need LIGHT, not the sun, to survive. If they had to have the sun, you couldn't grow a plant in a windowless building, which happens all the time in college science labs.
     
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