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Danny  
November 7, 2008 2:36pm
 		 Bob,
Wow, way to go regurgitating Pascal's pathetic wager. Unfortunately, when you weigh the number of religions in the world, and the dogmatic separations that exist within christianity alone, that "If we're right you have everything to gain" nonsense holds absolutely no water. I have more of a chance of dying in a fight protecting my family and going to Valhalla than following a set of dogmas to get into Heaven. And it's funny cuz all heaven means is "Sky." IF I want to spend time in the sky I'll buy a plane ticket.

By the way, prayer is a waste of time. This has been determined scientifically. The source for that? Richard Dawkins' "The God Delusion," which lists the original source for the double-blind study that proves that prayer does NOTHING.

I suppose you'll pull out the "God's time is different than ours" or "IT's about faith, so if god acted in that study it would remove the need for faith."

Faith is weakness. Faith is foolishness. Faith is a fear tool. Faith is the biggest plague mankind has wrought upon itself. It's the easiest out of an argument that allows one to cling to their outdated and useless religions.

To JPC,
My whole point about Pascal's wager is that it is outdated and meaningless, and in fact has always been meaningless because it assumes that there's a 50/50 chance that there is or is not a single, christian god. It's flawed, overly simplified, and is one of the arguing points I hear belched out of the hive mind that consists of members of the christian faith. It doesn't take into account the 9,998 other religions that existed at the time, or the multiple gods of the majority of those religions. When you weigh those odds out with all the factors of the modern world, christianity has a 0.002% of being correct. That's something for EVERYONE to think about. Almost every single religions that exists claims that it is the one true path to salvation/enlightenment/eternal bliss in the next life. If you look at every god ever dreamed up, in every religion in existence, you would easily see that ALL gods were created in MAN'S image, not the other way around. Every god is either human or anthropomorphic. There's no arguing that point. Not a single deity exists in all of mythology that isn't at least half human.

To Nicholas,
DUH, Pakicetus is a land mammal. That's the entire point. But if you follow the evolutionary path of all the other fossils I listed (Which isn't even close to the complete transitional list in the fossil record of land mammal to aquatic mammal evolution) you'll see the progression.

If whales didn't evolve from land animals, then find me something in the creation story that explains why whales and dolphins have vestigial appendages?

The problem with the entire book of Genesis, and in fact the bible itself, is that all references to animals are clearly the mere result of the observation of the bronze age tribesmen that wrote it. It says that bats are birds. We know better. I don't want to hear that "Well, man classified the animals into different groups blah blah blah." Sure, we did, but we did so through observation of what separates different species. And those traits haven't changed at all in millions of years, since the fist mammals evolved. You put stock in a book that up until extremely recent translatsions (Everything from the New King James version to everything written after it.) says that unicorns, satyrs, cockatrices, dragons, fairies, and other such mythological creatures exist.

The bible says that a whale or giant fish swallowed a man whole. There is not nor ever has been a whale or fish that could swallow a man whole. Whales have throats that are far too small for that, and even the largest fish to ever exist alongside humans could never pull that off. There is no reference to digestive fluids in that story either, once again proving that they new nothing at all of biology, zoology, or anything of the sort, and were merely making up stories based on what they assumed, not facts.

To Winston,
Indeed, there is nothing about religion that deserves respect. In fact, if it wasn't for the brutal actions of every religion that has ever come to power, including that of the catholic church or the puritans in the early US, religion wouldn't have made it out of the dark ages. It has been traditionalized through fear, violence, and murder. There is a saying I hear often, and it disturbs me that it has become accepted as some sort of universal truth. "Never discuss religion and politics." Well, Religion and Politics, and the fundamentalism they both carry, are the biggest problems mankind has every endured and kept alive. You can never fix a problem without discussing it, and yet religion is somehow an off-limits, taboo subject. It gets undeserved, unnecessary respect. It must be abolished. Yes, politics too. Because not a single political system has ever worked. Ever. Even the one we live in is failing, and has been failing miserably however slowly for over 100 years. We're all human beings. There's no reason for us to be divided by such idiotic and childish things as religion or political party. Or even money. They're all trivial things, and when they're eliminated things will be a lot more peaceful.
     
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