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Winston  
Floresville  
November 11, 2008 10:46am
 
Danny, please be consistent. "Buddhism has NEVER been a ruling power in and of itself has NEVER been a ruling power in and of itself." So, if Buddhism has NEVER been a ruling power in and of itself how; would you then define any government since the witch trials (in 1692 which is three centuries ago not two) as a Christian ruling power in itself? I guess you could consider Vatican City, and Lord knows they have created wars and oppressed people with their religion (sarcasm).

The things we do today such would not have been accepted 300 years ago or even 100 years ago. From the Magna Carta (1215) to the Declaration of the US, the world has become more amendable to the concept of Freedom and self-determination. It took over 550 years for these concepts to become a country. See US Declaration of Independence: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights.."

So, looking at Christianity or any religion more than 100 years ago is ridiculous. If someone looks at centuries old history they must take into context the morals and standards of the day. Before Christ’s arrival in Rome, it was standard practice to throw unsupportable infants into the garbage. It was the atheist thing to do.

As for history repeating itself, what terrible religious atrocities are going to repeat itself? Do you really believe in the CURRENT world we live in Christianity is going to be the head of a government and enforce Christian oppression? Obama claims to be Christian so is he going to put some oppressive Christian oppression on the Atheists? Obama said he is going to continue the War on Terror, but not in Iraq. So, your diversion into a random political discussion again shows a total lack of rational thought. In other words, your argument holds no water.

Humans are humans and they do terrible things no matter if they call themselves atheist or religious. To infer that President Bush went into Iraq for religious reasons is dishonest or a complete failure of evaluating concepts/theories based on a careful and rational examination of the facts. I think the loons on the Left have a better argument that we went into Iraq for oil which equals money. So, why would an Atheist ever go to war or does only religious people go to war? President Clinton, a Christian, went into Bosnia for humanitarian reasons and we are considering going into Darfur for the same reasons.

I would suggest money and power (human nature) is why history repeats itself. I personally understand the logic for going into Iraq. As with any decision, there are pros and cons; it is called life. We might not like someone’s decision whether it is to believe in God or not; we can’t change their mind/heart unless we can present a reasonable argument. To date, nothing you have presented even remotely is logical. Humans are too complex to blame all their failings on religion and is intellectually dishonest.

Grasping at the Old Testament and trying to prove it was stolen from other cultures does not change the fact it is Jewish history where a Messiah is promised. The Jews are still waiting. Twisting the words in scripture by inferring your meaning does not change my meaning or other Christian’s beliefs. Again, it does not matter or change John 3:16, “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” We are saved by “GRACE.”

If you want to quote the Old Testament try this one: Isaiah 55: 8-9: For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.
     
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